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Those are not ''my terms".

Ok... elaborate a bit please, it looks like you're saying something there

Guys, I'm not your philosophy teacher. You either learn those concepts and debate or ignore this OP.

Ohh hey man, you changed your photo hehe

Did you just bother writing that?

I think there are plenty of them.

It seems to me that your reply has nothing to do with what I'm asking for.

Yes, something like how would two guys argue on panpsychism for example, one for and the other against, presenting the arguments and counter-arguments...

Thank you a lot, guys! I'll start searching.

Thank you, man!

But I don't understand what the fundamental difference between materialism and neutral monism would be in order for the latter to be able to give rise...

I saw a book on a library and the translator is I. Katz.

I've search it. Yes, there is one :)

I think my journey with this topic has reached its end, unless some new information occurs and maybe change my view. Even if I'm not convinced by Spin...

No strawman. He doesn't state it, of course, but in his metaphysics the substance is not conscious. So consciousness truly arises from something that ...

Definitely not. My point was made very clearly.

I think that the unbridgeable gap between us consists in the radically different vision that we have, and that somehow starts from consciousness: I do...

So far I have drawn the following conclusions from Spinozism. Please let me know if they are correct. 1. Logic is fundamental, and everything that is ...

You're being very helpful, really.

I'm neither at war, nor fight. I'm just trying to obtain all the information I need before drawing the final conclusion.

I thought about things more and decided to come back with probably one of the last sets of questions: 1. Logic predominates in Spinozism - can we say ...

Ok, but until then, even if in maths we can find a way to obtain 6 from 2+2, in reality we always obtain 4, right? So in Spinozism, that which 2+2=6 i...

Hmmm... hard for me to express myself on this one. You said 2+2 can be 6 in maths. But in reality, if we take 2 objects and we add another 2, we alway...

Hummm, then how do we establish if something is logic or not?

Interesting. In this case, am I wrong if I say that empiricism should be primordial in our understanding of the reality? E.g., if we do an experiment ...

Thank you! I think I understand. I've got one on this: let's assume 2+2=5. If that were the case, we would be considered logic and accepted as the onl...

I've got 2 questions for you, 1 related to Spinozism, 1 not directly connected to the topic of this OP, it is related more to the concept of emergence...

Thanks, man! Nobody can suspect me of being friend, but I have to admit his last reply was probably the most helpful for me in order to understand wha...

I think (hope) I understand you perfectly. This is an exposure of how things might happen IF it is possible to get qualia from non-qualia or conscious...

I just wanted to find out if Spinoza offers an alternative response for emergence to the question ''How is it possible to obtain consciousness from no...

It seems to me it is just defined, not explained. That's exactly my issue.

Ok, I admit! That was actually funny :lol:

Yes! So Spinoza does indeed explain (define) consciousness in this way, but he doesn't provide an answer for the question ''How can qualia be generate...

- cool name That'd be great, but it's basically impossible. I've got a life... Agree, but I'm getting better at this. - yes, but also happy. Frustrate...

So to sum this first part up, Spinoza does not offer an explanation for how come a force with 0 consciousness, will, qualia, etc. can give rise to con...

So far, it seems to me Damasio gives primacy to the body, whilst Spinoza's parallelism doesn't.

You guys are psychos :lol:

You have shown a lot of patience and I would like you to understand me. I have always wondered how consciousness is possible. The explanation of the m...

Then how exactly does he think about it? Please give me a short answer for these: A. He claims that consciousness arose from a God/Nature who does not...

The question makes absolutely 100% sense. We assume one guy convinces Spinoza of something. That can lead to : A. no difference, the ''something'' is ...

My problem is that I'm trying to frame Spinoza's vision of consciousness in materialism / panpsychism, and Spinoza is neither (at least, he isn't mate...

You just can't resist :rofl:

I'm just going to assume your answer to my simple question would be yes

I don't share your opinion on that.

Now it is pretty clear to me you're actually avoiding the answer. I can accept that my earlier questions make no sense, this one really does. It is a ...

Trolling - no way. But my question wasn't a ''response'' to your last post. Was just another question. It's late here and it's kind of hard to read a ...

and - I could have stopped asking questions here after several people had already confirmed that if the h.p were true, Spinozism would be false. The o...

I actually do, but I need to read it several times. Patience please :smile: Also, I started to read this: https://eltalondeaquiles.pucp.edu.pe/wp-cont...

If one had truly convinced Spinoza that something with no consciousness cannot cause consciousness, would he come to the conclusion his metaphysics wa...