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There is a conscious visual experience with red in it. The paper hinges on the possibility that bats have kinds of conscious experiences we don't. If ...

I obviously can't explain that other than to say it's one of the three primary shades of objects in visual experience, which differs from other sensor...

That's too much effort for a long thread with so many wordy posts. I'm not sure how I mischaracterized it. I just don't agree that there's nothing it'...

I honestly can't remember at this point. Brief summary?

I'm a little worried for your gustary enjoyment while we wait on the neuroscientists.

Fair enough, but what we'll do in the meantime?

That would be interesting. How would we characterize consciousness in that case?

Most wretched existence is ours. Stuck in our conscious containers with our dreadful colors displaying on the mind's wall. Unable to appreciate the pu...

It's not all science fiction, since there are some organizations like NASA and SpaceX researching such matters. Maybe the pessimists are right and we ...

Maybe you should ask Dennett to summarize then.

Mostly I got it from this recent post: So we're apparently interpreting some physiological response via a public model and that becomes what we're con...

Also, the expectations have something to do with public models, which are what we think other people would do in our situation. So feeling anger or se...

*Sigh* So yet once again another game of changing the language to avoid the hard problem. Your side is nothing if not persistent.

Are the colors we experience out there in the world as such? Or are they generated by our conscious visual system, often (but not always) in response ...

I'm searching for a public model to express my experience of seeing a deleted comment. Disappointment? I'll have to shiver harder.

Yeah, but you can alter those temperatures that by adding stuff to the water or changing the air pressure.

Yes, so what makes the colors real?

Visible light is part of the EM spectrum. We call it visible because that's what we evolved to see, since it reflects off surfaces. But what makes the...

For the entire electromagnetic spectrum? Do these hues correspond exactly to the three cone combinations in human eyes?

Do you think photons are actually colored?

As physical waves, not experiences of color or sound.

Thinking about this some more, how would the words "afraid", "red" or "pain" have become part of language if there wasn't fear, color, or uncomfortabl...

How does that work for animals? Fear and aggression are important for survival, and they're not exactly querying themselves for reports on conscious e...

I don't know wha it means to say fear is a public model. I can't always tell when someone is afraid. Particularly if they wish to hide it, or are one ...

And there you go again. I thought for a moment you were backing off the eliminativism. Nothing is always accurate. Certainly not our perception of the...

The problem is those sounds and colors don't exist in external objects. It's rather sound waves and photons. The sounds and colors we experience are s...

I wonder why that is. :chin:

So you agree with Anil Seth that the goal is to map brain processes to phenomenal consciousness as a way forward to building bridges between the two? ...

Okay, but if i'm brain shivering color and pain, that still needs to be explained.

I don't actually think that. I'm okay with my dualism. Physicalism doesn't have to be true. It's just if consciousness can be an illusion, why not the...

Our an external one? That sword can cut either way. This neuroscientist is going somewhere:

Indeed. Even the illusion is itself being conscious of something. Indeed. It's like some of the more staunch behaviorists in the earlier part of the 2...

Your critique being that every experience is unique? "What it's like" doesn't need to pick out the same exact experience. It just means there's someth...

Hoo-boy! That will drive some of direct realists on here battty. Back to the quining shivering. Anil does mention qualia on the podcast. He doesn't di...

It's like you have blinders on. From the podcast around 7:24. He's not denying phenomenology. He isn't reifying the hard problem, but he's also not di...

@"Isaac" This last quote from the paper is exactly what the anti-Dennett side has been arguing this entire thread.

@"Isaac" I'll add this from the article. It's readily apparent that Seth is talking about phenomenal consciousness, and he understands the issues, suc...

I'll start by quoting from from an article Anil wrote. It covers much the same ground. And: And this, since it mentions dreaming: I've bolded the sali...

As has already been mentioned, Sean is a Humean about causation. So there are just regularities. Those might be in logical relation to one another, li...

You mean supporting both String Theory and MWI is a contradiction? I realize they are different kinds of multiple worlds, with MWI just being based on...

Also, Fermi wasn't thinking in terms of radio astronomy. He was wondering why the aliens weren't already here (and everywhere else), given the age of ...

That's interesting. My question is what to make of strong emergence. Something completely unpredictable and novel comes into existence when the right ...

I agree that modern physics has rendered traditional materialism obsolete. And John Wheeler is one physicist who's proposed an It from Bit view. But I...

Imagine being burned at the stake as you keep telling yourself the pain is an illusion.

At least when he's finally out of office on Jan 20th, everyone can stop talking about him non-stop. The NY Times should send him flowers and thank car...

Is there a kind of life that wouldn't be pessimistic and was worth living? Can you define that? Some of the stuff you listed can feel worth it at time...

So I went back and listened to Anil Seth's podcast on Philosphy Bites. He contrasts the real problem of consciousness with the hard problem. He explai...

No, I'm saying warp drives and wormholes are not ruled out. It might be possible to construct them for use in travel. https://youtu.be/8VWLjhJBCp0

In the Sara podcast at 57:36, Sean says we know that Standard Model of particle physics and asks whether that isn't enough. He says he thinks that's w...

No. A perpetual motion machine is, as would time travel to the past where you kill your grandfather. But wormholes or warp drives might be possible. A...