The Great Whatever

It doesn't matter whether my thoughts are determined or not, that doesn't affect the quality of the argument or my ability to think rationally. Honest...

I'm not talking about suicide, but birth. If what I've said is right, suicide itself is also not really blameworthy or commendable, or the wrong or ri...

I wasn't talking about 'the Absurd' (whatever that is) or Camus at all.

I don't have an exclusive definition. 'Coercion' is an English word that it is not in my power to define. If you speak English, you presumably also kn...

No.

So everyone is free to kill themselves and should stop complaining about life being coercive, but literally anybody has the right (and moral entitleme...

I disagree; people do not see birth a a institution because they take for granted that it continues, has to continue, etc. It is not something within ...

I think that, ideally, most governmental institutions and ordinary people would forcibly restrain all people from committing suicide if they had the c...

You are wrong about this. Some companies, for example, mix oxygen in with the gas in helium tanks specifically to prevent the tanks for being used for...

We generally agree that if one is in a coercive institution that restricts one's choice to such a complete extent that they have no non-trivial choice...

Actually, many cars no longer work for suicide, and people generally want to find ways to stop people form killing themselves (making helium tanks non...

I never said any of those things. Why respond if you're not going to read what I write?

In many cases, yes, they will physically prevent you from killing yourself if you try. Psychiatrists nd psychologists for example are entitled to have...

If the gradation isn't significant, then it doesn't affect the argument in an interesting way. If you want a verbal dispute, okay, but I don't. Too mu...

There actually are coercive mechanisms keeping people alive to suffer once they are born, such as survival instincts, the general pain attending dying...

What options worth the name does someone in prison have? Seriously?

I'm not sure why every other time you respond to me, you're basically not-so-subtley telling me to kill myself. It's rude.

Okay, there is such an incentive. If you don't do it, you literally die painfully. What more incentive do you want?

Maybe your problem is that you have a schizophrenic way of making claims: they are either philosophical or non-philosophical. But I don't see that as ...

Okay, that says nothing about whether you 'mind' doing it.

What do you want me to say? That people in prison are free to go to the bathroom right when they feel like they have to pee, or several minutes after?

What do you think 'coercive' means, exactly? I'm pretty sure what you just said is not what it means. We're talking about jail, right? Prison, rather?...

If I thought it was beyond discussion, I wouldn't be discussing it. What are you even talking about?

No; breathing is demanded by your physiological makeup. You literally breathe on pain of death. Same with eating, blinking, shitting, and sleeping. Al...

I don't have two sets of beliefs, one for common sense truisms and one for philosophical theses. I just try to say what's true.

I don't think you can be said to do anything freely if you're in jail.

As I mention in the OP, I'm specifically responding to a compatibilist claim that does think that coercion negates freedom, and defines the weak notio...

Yes we can. A coerced act is not freely chosen. A free act cannot be performed under coercion.

Good question but I feel it should be directed at all the bad writers of secondary literature.

Being familiar with the various drive and coercive practices that themselves govern the practice of giving birth, I know fairly well how parents could...

There is nothing heterodox about holding that coercion limits freedom or makes it impossible In fact if you denied this I would ask if you were joking...

The point is that not even the weak version holds, so it does not matter what argument the compatibilist makes so long as the point is to defend some ...

Neither determinism nor libertarianism makes more sense than the other. But the point here is not a metaphysical one, but baser: even in the weaker se...

I am not responding because I think you dislike me or what I am posting and are uninterested in the issues regarding coercion, compatibilism and birth...

I am not going to respond to a bunch of zebra-posting snide remarks. I would prefer to discuss the ideas and am uninterested in your personal affectio...

If you would like to restate them after you have calmed down, I will answer.

I do not think there are any questions that you raised to be answered, only voicing of being upset.

You seem to be upset with me and are not engaging the points I am making, so I don't think a response here would be fruitful.

I have rejected no such thing, I believe in the traditional Socratic method, and that has nothing to do with these posts anyway. Large amounts of suff...

No, it is typical in philosophical discourse to use pronouns like "I" and "you" to serve as examples for general cases to make general points. Yes, bu...

But they did. They knew full well that life entailed these things and wished life on me. I never said they were evil or wicked. They did something ter...

You already are in such a situation by virtue of being born. The one who birthed you knew what the world was like and how it would restrict you, and h...

An actual agent placed you in the position by choosing to birth you.

I think that within the confines e.g. of being a slave, these degrees are trivial: you're still a slave. And they do not allow the compatibilist's wea...

A slave lives only within coercively determined confines. You are not free to do what you want to do. If you actually think that, it's possible you ar...

Please leave me alone. Thank you.

The point is that all things in life are coerced, in that they take place within a coercive institution (birth). While the ice cream does not hold a g...

You do not have authority over decisions made under coercion or duress, and being born is coercive. There is no question of 'degree' here; and in fact...

This retort makes no sense, even as a joke.

I'm not a secondary source; I give my own opinions.