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@"AgentTangarine", @"TonesInDeepFreeze" Can you knock it off please? The thread title is "Infinites Outside of Math". You've turned it into a factual ...

:up: Any chance I could get you to zoom in on this bit: What is it about the concept of a neural network that makes it seem very specific and individu...

Something like a conceptual scheme?

Nicely done. Do you believe that's reflective of Davidson's position (since he proposed that term "anomalous monism"), or is it more Banno's than Davi...

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OP was mathematics without commentary on mathematics. Responses were brief and lacking content. You wanna talk maths for maths sake without philosophi...

Has generated enough contentful debunks to be worth keeping around at this point I think.

I nuked it. It went on so long since I was out all day.

As a rather selfish request, can you please provide more words and citations for these positions. By the sounds of it you're writing largely from Chal...

Merry Christmas all.

I'm not comfortable with the use of modality either, though I'll put my charity hat on. I'll assume that at least part of this discomfort regarding mo...

I think that's a big rabbit hole. I don't think the majority of eye movements can in principle be logged to consciousness - at least not in the standa...

I think being a content or vehicle internalist is independent of non-determinism. If determinism is the claim that mental content or mental vehicles h...

I think I'm getting there now, thank you for the clarifications. I wanna put a note here about how this maybe intersects with the externalism/internal...

I told you previously what I mean by direct realism - at least the version of it I defend. It's a similar use of the term to the sensorimotor theory o...

:up: There's too many ways of being direct or indirect to get into the specifics based on those terms alone I think.

Spinoza (arguably) has a concept of a qualitative infinity right at the beginning of his Ethics, propositions 1 through 8 introduce it. Infinity as th...

Being tangled up is part of the fun, I don't think it's a sign you're 'doing it wrong' so to speak. If you're trying hard to pay attention to philosop...

I don't think the literature is clear on the distinction either AFAIK. Proponents of direct realism seem to do one of two mutually exclusive things: (...

I guess I don't see what the point you made is for then. It seems the following are true: ( 1 ) There are states. ( 2 ) Some stuff counts as a state, ...

I don't know if noises are even uniquely associated with environmental or internal state variables in Friston's work. They're associated with function...

There's a flower moving about. It used to be a seed. I watch it moving. Rather than assuming that distal causes 'can't intervene in the perceptual pro...

Good point! I can think of a deflationary answer to why we shouldn't be conscious of the seed - because while the seed and its growing environment is ...

This is just maths. Closing it.

This is just maths. Yes, 2 is prime. The definition of a prime number is a natural number which is only divisible by itself and one. The divisors of 2...

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Yes! That bit doesn't confuse me. The bit which confuses me is that objects are mini theories but don't worry about the theoretical import of the obje...

This makes me very confused. Objects are mini theories, but don't worry about the theories using those objects imports to discourse?

I mean I know what qualia are. The canonical example there is the colour of a coloured patch, and they're 'available to introspection', if you read th...

A conception of qualia which isn't the name for the isolated 'red' of the fire, or the 'red-welcoming' mixed quale shorn from its generative environme...

Can you please give a source that spells out a candidate holistic conception of qualia that you're gesturing towards?

I don't. MP's a direct realist in the sense that the environment of body is the direct object of that body's perception. The 'infusion of ideas' occur...

It's a unit of pure sensation. Which is a category he undermines repeatedly. Pure sensation I take as meaning intrinsic, nonrelational properties of (...

Which quote?

For these:

Source?

Source regarding MP's direct realism: Source regarding MP's disbelief in qualia and sense data: IE, we don't experience qualia. Under what conditions ...

I ain't. AFAIK he has a pretty realist take towards phenomena, but doesn't take a realist stance toward qualia and their 'experiential chunk' substrat...

There will probably be 'analogues' of sense data in some indirect realist and some antirealist styles of thinking about perception. There probably won...

I can see why you'd find both equally ridiculous. I don't think this is as ridiculous though. If you're using the word sense data as a neutral term, b...

That's the thing though, a theory which uses sense data is necessarily different from one which doesn't. Same with qualia. "I don't believe in qualia ...

The lack of definiteness isn't frustrating for me actually. I'm coming at it from the same angle - to my mind even thinking in terms of sense data is ...

:up: There's also the possibility that sense data don't exist. And a more pernicious possibility that thinking in terms of sense data makes it difficu...

Let me help you by becoming apoplectic. Perhaps it isn't all because people are attributing beliefs to you based on past uses of the word, perhaps it'...

Cheers. It seems a bit of a stretch to me to say the brain effectively contains images from the methods in the study. But thanks for presenting it. I ...

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@"Kenosha Kid" @"Andrew M" I think we all had the "does separating out experience from perception create a perceptual intermediary + invite the Cartes...

When you say decode, do you mean with loss? If so, what would be lost?

Tobias is a plant for the council of Sharn confirmed.