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I guess we could talk about correctness conditions for claiming an identity, and what they'd look like. We do have precedents for that in social roles...

No bother pal. Hope you have a fun time here.

I don't think we set the bar that high with it. If someone doesn't research their post, but writes a persuasive argument, I think we still tend to tre...

The evangelism guideline generally gets used when someone repeatedly posts the same thing repeatedly, like a worldview, without discussing it in a rec...

We couldn't stop it though.

Maybe! By curtailing I also meant to suggest "blocking the advancement of". We could talk about rejecting the Scottish Bill if you like, my understand...

You can find TERFish references to the same analogy on SEP's Feminist Perspectives On Trans Issues. I think comparisons between identity categories ar...

I think you've equivocated between inheriting an identity and being subject to its systemic vectors of oppression when you count as it. If you look li...

I think that's true, but I'm not sure it's relevant from the perspective of what counts as a woman. I'd bet that oppression experiences don't uniquely...

Same. Charity can often be absent. I like to hope TPF is a bit less reactive in this manner. Whether that makes it more of a cess pool than some other...

Source? Sounds a good read.

Lemme see if I've got this right, the underlying contrast you're disambiguating is between two concepts of misogyny which look like: 1 ) An act A by a...

Indeed it isn't. @"Isaac" successfully Mao'd over the thread. Everyone can resent. What flavours of resentment are uniquely masculine or essential cha...

An aside: can confirm. People do this at book clubs.

My concern is that this phenomenon isn't new, it's just out in public. The "Effeminist Manifesto" was written partly in response to perceptions of pre...

Oh. The tendency of capital to dissolve social forms also tends to dissolve stultifying ones. Disruption isn't always bad. That can be granted without...

I'm gonna put my commie hat on. Thanks. That's part of why I chose the example. I get the impression that you are reading that this disunity is the le...

Discrimination at SEP, Feminist Perspectives on Power at SEP. Both of them have intersectionality subsections.

Trying to see if there's any relevant interactions between the issues that present unique challenges. Eg: Glasgow knife crime, went down a lot through...

:lol: We be red snappers.

So long as you don't resent them for doing the same, eh?

Sardines of the world, unite.

Yeah you probably are. That's what I worked out for tins of skipjack tuna anyway. And they've got way more mercury. 3 tins a week on average.

Aye. There's a fine line between tarring proponents of these criticisms with this brush and being frustrated at how people articulate this stuff in ge...

FDA usefully has listed mercury concentrations in lots of fish types. Had to use it recently to ensure I wasn't giving myself mercury poisoning from t...

All good, it's how you manage bees after punching a beehive. I don't think we're avoiding (in thread) talk of class oppression, it's just not the cent...

I should've done more work to relate the above to masculinity. And in response to @"Tzeentch". I do believe it's really reductive to say that men=oppr...

It's a point well made, but I imagine you know it's not a good argument by itself. Fundamentally though the interstitial point between "general oppres...

Aye. It amuses me that we agree on that but for completely opposite reasons. Ah well. Another time!

Good call!

Aw. What did I get wrong?

Also @"Wayfarer" I think there is a place for this kind of argument, as a proxy for a much longer essay. I'm just gonna go hard on it to the point of ...

Fair enough. :up:

Maybe none! I think I saw you construe @"apokrisis" as being an idealist through that remark? Or was it just that the thinkers they reference might be...

Aye. I think if you found philosophy's essence, there would still remain a distinction between the found essence and the essence finding thought proce...

I see there being two tendencies which result in this impression, one which is silly and unjust and one which is worth considering. The first tendency...

As a positive example: I've heard of a man identifying as a feminist who was chair of a disability, diversity inclusion initiative in a company. He wa...

Also @"Amity". This is personal reflection upon Moliere's excellent points. Yes. And I've met several who believe men calling themselves feminists is ...

So long as you're not English I imagine you'd get a bit of leeway. Scottish people are insane about what counts as English. Being south of any particu...

Are you another Dumfries and Galloway expat?

Looks cool. Why? I've never visited. It's surprisingly out of the way. The roads in the SW make no sense. It's not much longer to go from Edinburgh to...

To be fair I can't call you a sassanch because I'm from Dumfries and Galloway.

Off ye deepy fer ye get a chibbin.

Glass ye.

Boring essays and technical reports.

Sassanch.

She probably wouldn't, no. I think there's something in Gyn/Ecology to that effect. "They" as an attempt at gender neutrality = a psyop to cover up me...

@"apokrisis"@"wonderer1" I've deleted that exchange. Kindly desist.

I found their book in a charity shop. The pun in the title made me pick it up. The prose kept me reading it. She uses the term, in that book, as a myt...

It was a nod to Mary Daly's Gyn/Ecology, she calls middle aged and up women that make their own sets of norms "crones", especially if they criticise o...