So you put a camera and a tv to face each other. Tv produces light, camera receives it. Why would you say camera is “conscious” of that light rather t...
Because it might be a process instead of state. It could also be a property, or force, or illusion. Times two. It could be physical state or virtual s...
I have no opinion yet on the matter, I'm asking to hear what other people think. Theories which assert consciousness arises from computation, for exam...
Everything is subjective. That stupidly purposeless observation has already been stated several times on every page of this discussion, and no one dis...
Yes, its effect, its PHYSICAL effect. I already explained to you once before that just because magnetic field is transparent does not mean it is immat...
If it’s not clear what I mean by "abstract/virtual" imagine Pacman arcade machine. You can see Pacman exists on the screen, and that’s sort of directl...
I defined precisely what I meant by the words I used, just in case, and it should be pretty clear exactly what distinction I wanted to make and which ...
Physical or actual includes both basic phenomena like magnetism or gravity, and also emergent phenomena like atoms, molecules, planets, stars, liquidi...
That is irrelevant if you understand the distinction between the things I labeled “physical/actual” vs things I labeled “abstract/virtual”. Those are ...
I am not comparing anything. I sad the question is whether qualia is physical phenomena like magnetism or liquidity, or is virtual phenomena like algo...
If by "real" you mean something that matters, that can be a cause for some consequence. Then yes, liquidity and acidity are real, and so are words, la...
Anway, let's focus this discussion to something more useful or concrete, some basics. As we concluded over the last few pages there are only two possi...
We do have limited resolution due to biological size scale structure of the sensory input. We also do not perceive directly even these low resolution ...
There is no reason to call mental reality "ideality". English dictionary already suggests pretty meaningful distinction: actual/material/real vs virtu...
Yes, but that doesn't necessarily mean panpsychism. It's also compatible with emergentism and even dualism in some way. I'm not sure if it even exclud...
The same way the periodic table of elements evolved from the universe. It's one of the many possibilities that can be built with LEGO bricks of the un...
I’m simply asking you to explain what you mean before I can say you’re speaking gibberish and have no idea what you are talking about. Your ability to...
What are you trying to say, what is the point of all this? Your statement is incomplete and thus meaningles unless interpreted in a generous way. It's...
More importantly you need to explain what do you assume the word “existence” means by specifying your definition and applying it to some examples like...
At this point in our understanding the only sensible way to talk about consciousness is in the context of artificial sentience and minimalistic terms ...
For some strange reason instead of consciousness we are discussing the meaning of the words in English dictionary. It’s like everyone has their own di...
Surely experience exist in a sense you are either conscious or not. And so do unicorns exist as much as thoughts exist, not actually as material objec...
As if there is something else besides science that can explain anything? Science itself doesn't really explain anything either, it only describes the ...
You are a baby robot, if you're lucky, otherwise you're logic unit is beyond repair. You're using English words, but not speaking English language. It...
Consciousness is the primary and perhaps the only fact. So the question really goes the other way around: how or why is logic possible at all? And wha...
Normal people would be ashamed to admit they were talking nonsense the whole time, that's what you just said. There is no such definition in English d...
You are confusing computation with communication, neither of which is 'information', but integration and transfer of information. Transfer of informat...
I relate qualia and EM fields in more than one way, three in fact. First is to ask why are we not disturbed by not knowing what EM fields really are, ...
We also do not know what gravity, or magnetic and electric fields really are, why they exist, and how can they do what they do. But we can measure the...
To see if you have a brain of a robot or a child. No. There are no alternative interpretations. The meaning is defined by the precise, specific, and d...
If we discover how to decode all of the brain signals, so we can extract qualia from it to read thoughts and watch dreams, for example, then we would ...
Just like unicorns. I'm afraid to ask what is it you actually mean to say there, but whatever it is, can it explain anything about qualia, sentience, ...
Meaning, if the language of mathematics (metaphysical abstracts) is encoded into all of the physical/natural world, what does that infer? To me, it in...
Are you kidding me?!?!! 1. you are a robot 2. YOU ARE A ROBOT The same information can be embedded or transmitted in different spatial arrangements of...
That's a generalization, kind of opposite of explanation. So why would anyone think that? What's the point, what do you with it, what questions does i...
I hope it's clear by now why words like communication, knowledge, news, or intelligence are not synonyms for the word information, which is far more b...
10 print "hello world!" 20 goto 10In degrees of uncertainty, how much information is in this program? No, you were childishly redefining existing word...
Yes. Ortodox science does seem stuck in a way some "unexpected" discovery of wide consequences is needed for further progress. Still, those kinds of p...
To LearN the MeaninG of the WordS look into DictionarY. YoU may use yoUr own PersonaL LanguaE to talk with yoUr ImaginarY FriendS, but in the ReaL Wor...
Knowledge is not information, knowledge is 'understood information'. Ability to know is not information, ability to know is ability to understand info...
You are contradicting definitions and yourself. 1. Computer programs contain information. Yes/No 2. Dead DNA still contains information. Yes/No 3. Wor...
Pile of stones conveys no information, it CONTAINS it. Size, weight, shape... how many more times can you misinterpret this? It's like you don't under...
INFORMATION: 1: the communication or reception of knowledge or intelligence -- no, information is static concept, communication is transfer of informa...
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