Zelebg

You are again misinterpreting what I said and keep confusing information, computation, and the result. What are algorithms and computer programs made ...

Your reply is not addressing what I said, you're misinterpreting. You are confusing static information with its computation and the result. Informatio...

All information we know of is embedded in spatial arrangement of matter, so information is just 'geometrical relations of matter' in essence. Context ...

Why the brain then, what's it for? And what do we do with this theory, does it explain any experiment, does it propose any experiment, or something, a...

Why do you say mental properties are non-spatial? Do you mean non-material? In any case emergence does imply that new emergent entities and their prop...

Far more interesting parallel is between ants or bee colony and the brain as a colony of brain cells. Perhaps it's due to our lack of understanding, b...

https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2018.01656/full “I” and “Me”: The Self in the Context of Consciousness

I am not talking about the subject in the contents of the experience, but the subject outside of the experience which is subjected to experience that ...

I'm not talking about consciousness, perception, or judgment. I’m talking about the simple fact that experience implies experiencer.

The most crazy, yet strangely plausible theory of consciousness Consciousness is a parasitic animal trom the 5th dimension of the Aether. They feed on...

Zelebg: You're talking to yourself. But, yes, I guess I did say that.

Zelebg: Are you saying "self" is some kind of organism that eats qualia and shits memories?

You mean if we take all the bees that compose an emergent whole, so that their "collective consciousness" is parallel to brain consciousness? I find t...

How does ghost in the machine solve the problem? How do you explain subjective experience of the ghost? And whose ghost is it? Mine? Or is it some sha...

When I say qualia gets "consumed" by the self, that "consumption" is the act of phenomenally experiencing the qualia. Access consciousness has to do w...

Consider all this preparation to encode qualia in a certain format for consumption by the "self". If we now suppose all the information actually must ...

Totally awkward, almost not helpful at all. I'd say the question is: what or who is the subject of experience?

But what is the difference between that and saying subjective first-person experience emerges from computation? And in either case someone can come al...

Our perception is abstracted, simplified, focused, noise-reduced... it's a function in virtual reality not the result of direct sensation. To simulate...

Imagine you understand exactly how it works, you can decode the brain impulses and watch someone's dreams, read their thoughts, delete memories or imp...

Depends on how we define 'conscious', which is why I am trying to be more specific and focus on the "self", on that something which is experiencing th...

Hmm.

Yes, plus it's worse. So instead of explanation at this time I'm looking for good analogies, and instead of trying to answer the question I'd rather t...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self_model Thomas Metzinger is not saying that anything is illusion. He is also not explaining anything. That means as...

Topic of this thread is far more specific than 'consciousness '. It's _subjectivity_ of the experience. That is what makes the problem hard.

You mean the link to one hour long YouTube video? I think you should summarize it here in words if you want people to respond to it.

You are making incoherent, vague assertions. My reply to you is : No, you are wrong, just saying.

You wish to claim qualia is an illusion? Please sum it up first rather than elaborate.

Things? There are people who lose the ability to see the whole visual categories like colors, motion, depth... Clearly visual qualia is composed from ...

Behaviour? Are you saying robots able to mimic human behaviour are consciouss?

Continually? You never explained anything even once. I explained in the opening post why the problem is hard, what exactly is not clear to you? You ke...

Empty statement with no explaination, again. I conclude it is you who has gross misunderstanding of what the problem is.

You keep making empty statements. How does that have anything to do with this thread and what I said in the opening post?

Maybe if you are a robot and wish to claim qualia is an illusion. But what is it you want to say anyway, you forgot to explain.

System can not be without at least two elements, each of which must have at least one property able to interact with a property of another which will ...

What experiment you suggest could help explain?

Let us see how low can we get the bottom line. We only have one concept to explain everything - “property”. At atom scale there is electric and magnet...

Color is analog variable, exactly like wavelength of EM waves. What meaning does it have if I say 'red' is just another name for 700nm wavelength? Is ...

Perfectly simple solution is that 700nm actually equals 'red' in some specific circumstances and in a way we yet don't understand.

Emergence is what connects all sciences from atoms to galaxies. If emergent, then by content it must be reducible to lower level elements it emerges f...

Yes. What I mean is that people keep putting forward different theories in terms of some process, function, some dynamics without realizing they are a...

Some people continue to play piano or drive a car as if nothing happened while having an epileptic seizure, which means totally unconscious. They of c...

"Functional analysis" makes me doubt he explains anything. Can you sum it up what does he say about what a 'consciously experienced first-person persp...

Your thesis explains nothing, it postulates another question as an answer. And questions are not answers, you know? Besides, far more reasonable axiom...

God did it! What a satisfying answer, let us pretend that explains everything about us and our world, so we are only left to explain it all over again...

The only type of answer we can give is in terms of motion, something moves somewhere and then poof, that's consciousness. That's all we can do. And pa...

Go ahead then, say it.

Problem is much deeper, it's called "symbol grounding problem". We don't know where do we get the meaning for anything at all. We don't really know wh...

Not really, because you are your consciousness, which is a virtual machine emulated inside the machine called subconsciousness. And from the conscious...

Maxwell got his equations based on fluid dynamic of Aether. There is no discussion here, you either do not believe this statement is true or you do no...