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As someone that has a very analytical mind and who is usually able to clearly think through things on my own without prayer this is a question that I ...

@"DingoJones" I mean I guess that is one way to think about it; I think it's a little more of an action though. I think the value in it is very simila...

@"DingoJones" My conception of prayer does not necessitate that God "respond" in the way that you describe. I definitely feel that in my life personal...

@"Terrapin Station" Please correct me if I misinterpret or misunderstand the solution you pose to the third man argument but I take what you said to b...

@"Pfhorrest" Plantinga's response involves no maybe's. He very directly states what the solution to the problem would be. He asserts that there are th...

I would agree with the original argument however I would not add on the 8th line as @"DingoJones" did. I don't know if you are a Christian or not ding...

@"Terrapin Station" Ah I understand. The third man argument is not particularly relevant for this premise. The problem that the third man argument bri...

My claim is that God's form would be the form of the good that Plato describes, yes.

@"Terrapin Station" Are you confused why I'm talking about the third man argument or how I explained it? Could you clarify what you are stumped on.

@"tim wood" So are you trying to say that you think talk of the forms is not important or necessary at this point because of the progression of time a...

@"Zelebg" even if being tied is just as good as being solo first, my other objections still stand.

@"Zelebg" The idea of the greatest conceivable being does make it mandatory that there only be one such being. I think if you can picture many greates...

I am acting under a moral theory that, more than believing it should be universal, I believe it is universal for the example that I gave. And as I men...

I don’t think anyone here is in the process of writing their dissertation on this topic and if they were they wouldn’t be coming here to banter. I thi...

Sorry for not making myself more clear. For objectively, I used the definition given by Bartricks in his original argument. For immoral, I mean the op...

I totally hear what you are saying and I think we do agree to some extent. I think where we differ is in this; if I understand you correctly you are a...

@"Bartricks" My objection to your initial statement would be to premise two. In that premise you state that only a subject can value something. I beli...