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:chin: Virtue ethics. Growth.

I was thinking more of Aristotle.

Yep.

I disagree. "Morality" develops over time, as one learns from and interacts with others. It's about becoming a better person - about developing values...

While the US High Court apparently agrees, this seems to me to be quite mistaken. Subjecting oneself to one's own judgement is simple consistency. On ...

Just trolling the theists... Well, yes, but it's more than that. It's not just my or your feelings here - we all agree that kicking puppies is not an ...

Nor I. So we have social prohibitions that are not acts of faith. That kinda fucks up Devine Command Theory.

, OK. Seems we have some agreement. So is believing "One ought not kick puppies" an act of faith?

We don't. That's kinda the point.

...as part of an inference. And an inference depends on truth values. One ought not kick puppies. John kicked a puppy John did what he ought not. If "...

:smile: Isn't it your bed time...? In one sense it tells us that there is nothing more to say about red; given the domain is only the beads, red just ...

So you are saying that it is not true that we ought not kick puppies? That we cannot make the inference - If one does what one ought not, then one is ...

The "we want to say" is a nod to what cannot be said, but is instead done or shown. After all, can you give a reason for saying that {1,2,3} are red, ...

Ancient democratic cities included Athens, Argos, Corcyra, Chios, Rhodes, Syracuse, Croton, Thurii, Ephesus, and Miletus. Athens imposed democracy on ...

Seems the thread has moved off topic to attempts to explain or even justify totalitarianism... I wonder why that is topical? Seems to be a common them...

Missposted.

So going back to this, Extensionally, The list of planets just is the "meaning" of both Planets and Planètes, and so since their number is greater tha...

It's not that use reduces to extension, but that the use of a (proper) name is it's extension - what it refers to. This in contrast to Quine rejecting...

Well, that the cat ought be on the mat is either true, or it is false... unless you have some alternative? It would be interesting to juxtapose Nussba...

So to the rather odd paragraph about physical necessity. There's a bit of having one's cake and eating it, too, going on here. So we need necessity in...

Fixed error from self correct: "to use it" Thanks.

I agree. But to know a word is to use it, and to use it is to know it. ...but nor does it mean that they do not!

Nice.

Quite so; if someone referred to "the sensation S" for themselves alone, then the qual is private; and if they do it for others, isn't it just the col...

Well if your are to convince me of this I'd first have to be convinced that you understood Wittgenstein. ... and so on. If I ask for the red pen, and ...

So what. Think on it some more. Colour blind folk do use the word "red" correctly - how can that be?

So it should be no trouble to set out that difference with a bit more than a mere label. How do you tell that someone has the "concept" red? By seeing...

What is the difference between learning the meaning of a word and learning to use the word? (, you might consider this, too. )

So now you are making use of a private rule... this (indicating the qual) is red... And how can we say that what you pick out by "this" is the same as...

Ok. SO you are looking to divorce "red" and "green" from individuals that are red or green... Good move. Keep going. (Note that I am not a fan of qual...

Yep - The meanings of words are learned by using them...

Is there more here than the collapse of "meaning" that occurs as one attempts to say what meaning is? That circularity is answered by looking to use, ...

Perhaps the point might have been expressed better. If someone says the cat is on the mat, there is a fact of the matter that we can check against - t...

That's pretty opaque. You seem to see everything through Nietzsche. I don't find that at all helpful.

That word. If everything hat applies to {1,2,3} applies to "...is red", then what more is there to "meaning"? And yes, it is not necessary that {1,2,3...

Then there is something about Popper and falsification that you have missed, and I have not adequately explained. There is a difference between being ...

A quick version of naive falsification. A theory is a universal statement - "all swans are black". basic or protocol sentence would be "Here is a whit...

It's not just natural, it is inevitable. A part of the human condition is that we each decide what we do next, so in your words we must each "take on ...

Ah, too many threads here. So long as you don't do it to my face...

It was between Abraham and Isaac.

That's not what I recall. I will happily accept the essay you point to as a valid interpretation. I offer another interpretation, were the actions des...

So we are to get personal? From your "about" page: And yet you say of me, "You just won’t give an inch". There's nought so queer as folk.

Oh, . Good of you to worry about me so. I believe quite a few things. I trust in quite a few folk. But in neither case would my belief or trust be unb...

There are few folk as dangerous as those who are certain they know the will of god. prima facie, trussing up your son, placing him on a pile of wood a...

But we are never fully informed. We don't know everything there is to know. That's kinda the point, isn't it, that we have to act despite not being fu...

So we have faith as either trust or belief, taken to an extreme. Considered as belief, it becomes believing despite the evidence; considered as trust,...

...to the extent of performing an abominable act. That the decision was as you suggest "fully informed" only serves to add to the affront. Had Abraham...

That argument might hold if there were agreement amongst the learned. There isn't. However, And by this standard the stories of the Binding and of Job...

This is simply to renege on your responsibility to decide if an act is right or wrong, to hand that most central of judgements over to someone else. T...

For what it's worth, the dash in a Tesla looks like they decided to glue in an iPad as an afterthought... https://media.istockphoto.com/id/1206819296/...