Banno

You seem to me to be doing no more than recursive assertion. It is because it is because it is because... The "Why" you are after is simply that there...

An odd view. You would presumably, for consistency's sake, say the same for Turing Machines, Lambda calculus, and Markov Algorithms; each of which hav...

Well, no. He carefully shows why G is unprovable.

You have Carol not playing the game. I wouldn't play , either. Fair call.

G is not a deduction in F. That would be silly. Rather, Gödel shows using arithmatization and the diagonalization that the structure of F is such that...

Hmm. To be sure, G is a statement in F (is that what you are saying?) But there is no proof of G in F. That's the point of G. The arithmatization of F...

Good. I must have misread you previously. Sure. Apart from some difficulty in your saying G is a language. I take it you mean the statement G? Unclear...

All you've succeeded in doing is making the grammatical point that if there is something then there is not nothing. Writing "absolute" in front of "no...

Mmm. I'm just attempting to help bring out your usage. So for you, (p & ~p) is a contradiction, and false, but also for you, (this sentence is not tru...

Sure, nice. So whereabouts in such a coding are we going to see the equivalent of (p & ~p)? Where's the demonstration?

perhaps that is not as clear as you seem to think. My guess is that a much more formal account is needed. The problem is that “self” is ambiguous. Aga...

I saw that earlier. Problem is that a self contradiction is something of the form (p & -p); and it’s clear the halting problem is not of this sort. So...

Sure. What's unclear to me is what it is you think this tells us about the halting problem.

The original article seems to be https://www.cs.toronto.edu/~hehner/OSS.pdf?fbclid=IwAR2uE4I_faeh_MPXAom8fl7FyTtwqi_Ll7VjxSqabll6zjGQ2kCJMDOz9wI The s...

Well, no, I'm saying even if your goal is to be rational, there are situations that do not have a rational response. Even if, or perhaps because, you ...

Check out what Anscombe says about innocence, and the sleeping soldiers example, in Mr Truman's Degree. Destroying a city involves the murder of innoc...

Sometimes folk do stuff they ought not? Yes. Many - most? - issues are inscrutable. That our choices are rational is more pretence than reality. Shoul...

Yep. One can keep one's footing. I surmise Truman realised it was immoral, but did it anyway. Would I have done differently? Such contemplations are f...

Her argument there is curious... that in order to be under an obligation one must already be operating in the context of laws. But one can place onese...

I'm not sure how to understand this. Morality is about what we do. That's why it's something we observe in the world. It can be discussed, and so subj...

If what you mean is that you want to live, that's fine. "I want to live" says nothing about how you should deal with others, so it says nothing about ...

Cheers. Good to hear at least one person had a look. "Choosing to kill the innocent as a means to an end is always murder". Truman was a murderer.

Again, this is ambiguous. It might be either Sometimes we believe that a clock is both broken and not broken or The clock is broken and sometimes we b...

You're running the conversation. Nothing you have said makes a case for there being beliefs that are not propositional. For three pages.

This just says that S has a false belief. Yep.

You're having a lend.

We do not believe (a clock is both broken and not broken) You're saying that "a clock is both broken and not broken" is not a proposition?

P1. Sometimes we believe, of a broken clock, that it is working. The propositional content here is "the clock is working"; the bit after "that". This ...

:lol: By the conclusion not following from the premises. Indeed, "propositional attitude" is not even mentioned in the premises.

It's invalid, and P1 is ambiguous in the way already discussed.

I'm tired of this constipated approach. Sure. Make an argument.

Mr Truman's Degree. An article that might give this thread some moral guidance.

Yep. My bad. This whole process is so wearisome, I lost track. My apologies. You specified that S believed the clock was working. That's what I'm work...

I don't see a difference between that question and your previous one. That S believes the clock is broken was specified, by you.

Form the OP, beliefs explain, but do not determine, actions. Any belief can be made to account for any action, by adding suitable auxiliary beliefs. S...

I'm using scope specifically for the range of the belief. What S says would seem to be irrelevant. And no, I'm not just avoiding giving a straight ans...

that’ll be the article written by an academic specialising in management and engineering.

It seems you don't know much about Fiji. Nor, oddly, the Vatican. That there are no such examples does not show that there could not be such an exampl...

Again,

Puts me in mind of the feminist joke: Man says "If there were no men, who would protect you?" Woman replies "If there were no men, who would I need pr...

Yawn. Yep. The views you espouse here are a manifestation of your more fundamental religious views, expressed elsewhere. You are not here to re-think....

"OP" - opening post. The first post on this thread, in which you made various claims. No. I pointed out that your assertion that hierarchies are neces...

Your OP makes claims as to how society ought function. They are ethical claims. No, you're not. Pertinacious, pretentious crap.

The OP here makes ethical claims. They have been challenged as examples of the naturalists fallacy. Stop pissing around.

You make ethical claims on a philosophy forum and then don't want to discuss ethics. Go away.

Both support the view that spare production allowed the development of a hierarchy. Neither is a tertiary source. Neither argues that hierarchy is a n...

And you have yet to address 's point: even if you are correct about the biology (you are not), humans might choose otherwise. Why not opt for greater ...

So now you turn the argument into one about what is a primary, and what a tertiary, source. Slither and slide. Primary and secondary sources express t...

How is young Jordan, I wonder? Still persecuting his colon, I presume. Too much hunt, not enough gather. Needs some greens to keep him regular.

Well, no. Showing that your suggestion is questionable does not require the presentation of an alternative. Further, your aim is off since feminist th...