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That's all fine. There is very little that can be said about truth.

Not the ones Toblerones come in.

Trump as Pompey, not Caesar. Maybe.

Well, it's not looking good, at the hands of "the patriot of the year". A shame for the US, but democracy may thrive elsewhere.

it will be interesting to learn, over the next few years, if the institutions that underpin democracy are as strong in the USA as in South Korea.

I addressed that previously:

This again brings out the difference between something being true and it being know to be true. We don't know if the coin we are about to flip will co...

Nor do I?

It was @"Wayfarer" who introduced "If everything remains undisturbed then there will be Gold", quoting someone else. Seems to me that logic alone shou...

Debate? Not so much. I like your explanation of truth in a world against truth at a world. And I think the argument you presented yesterday is quite i...

You are misrepresenting what I have said. Just as you misrepresented what Michale said.

Sure, I already addressed that. Yep, there are sentences.

Nothing. It's your argument that is suspicious. I made the mistake of understanding P2 as an instance of existential generalisation, but it isn't. Exi...

It is suspicious that it predicates truth to sentences in it's own domain. I suspect it would fall apart if formalised, but how to formalise it? Using...

SO are you happy with that conclusion?

So do you interpret this? That if the language English had not developed, then there would be no gold? Perhaps you are.

IF you like. For our purposes, this doesn't enter into consderation. Sure. And the English language does exist. So if our domain includes English sent...

I do not think it is that complicated. To make use of existential generalisation all one needs is for "there is gold in those hills" to be in the doma...

The key work on Indexicals is apparently Kaplan. Much of the discussion thereabouts also involves demonstratives. It's not an area I've looked at in d...

I'm happy to go along with it's being valid, with some reservation about what it means to use existential generalisation over a truth statement. That ...

So you are objecting to existential generalisation over a truth statement? Ok.

I'm not at all sure how to approach this. Is it saying that ( "there is gold in those hills" is true) is extensionally equivalent to (there is gold in...

If they are truth functional equivalent, what more do you need? What's your point?

Presumably they are the same in at least this way: whatever truth value you assign to one, you must also assign to the other two.

Sure, and as presented, it is wrong. There are things we know that are not based on experience alone. So don't attribute "empiricism" to me. We went f...

Sure, your experience of the world has changed. But the world hasn't. The set of facts concerning the world remains unchanged, ex hypothesis, despite ...

What we can do is apply existential generalisation... If there is gold at Boorara, then it follows that there is gold; and if there is gold, it follow...

If I may... Again, who is it who disagrees? Without language, nothing can be said. But there is no reason to suppose that language makes a difference ...

Yep. The accusation of Platonism is another fabrication from . The claim that the true proposition "gold exists" will continue to exist even after all...

Come on. Strawson's Bounds of Sense. You say such things to me, yes, but in other posts you tend towards a much more stringent - even strident - ideal...

You know that analytic philosophy has its roots in critique of Hegel and Kant, so your saying it ignores idealism is no more than a rhetorical gesture...

Sure. Not to my satisfaction, obviously. OLP doesn't reject idealism so much as bypass it.

No. Leon seems not to have made it past the middle ages, seeing everyone in terms of Plato or Aristotle. That wouldn't be an issue, if he engaged with...

Again, fabricating stuff. Try reading.

Knowledge and truth? Well, perhaps you can't. That's one of the odd consequences of treating truth as a propositional attitude. So much the worse for ...

This is the bit where you fabricate rather than read. For "A world without any minds", isn't it true at the very least that there are no minds? So we ...

You guys seem not to understand the difference between affirming that something is true and it's being true.

Yes, our knowledge of that. But not the truth of that. A basic difference. The bit about truth not being a propositional attitude.

So you say. But in the example you gave - Yes, way back at you gave the unattributed quote... My responses: and That the gold is still there is explic...

In all honesty, I don't see what it is you are attempting to say here. It just looks confused. There may be gold in the hills, even if no one knows.

...the mysterious, indeed inexplicable disappearance of the foxes. Hmm.

Fair. Though many try. (Edit: I suppose you think I should abbreviate your name to "Wayf" instead of "Waif", too? )

You are not in freefall... that's were the argumentum ad lapidem fits. You can believe anything, but there are restrictions on what works. And waiving...

OK. Well, there's the problem. This is understood by some as causal, in a Newtonian, wind-up universe way. Hence my first post here. What we need for ...

Would you prefer it if I expressed yours? Tough.

Fine. I'd say instead that it's a way of talking consistently about the stuff around us. That strikes me as less mystical. That is, maths fits the wor...

Yeah. We can bring it back to truth not being a propositional attitude. Some folk can't grasp that. But treating it as a propositional attitude leads ...

More that it can be used for more than just wordplay - you can count things, share them, bring them together and such. Do you think Arithmetic a dead ...

Glad you understood this. Seems obvious, making the argument watertight, but there's nought stranger than folk. It's something like that. As if ("ther...

I din't say arithmetic was just wordplay. And it does evolve.