The definition of a God is controversial but we are said to be made in his image in the Bible. And as I am saying now through science and thought, we ...
You can give a deflationary account of this view. In order to coerce us to reproduce we could be wired to see life as good. It certainly isn't unmitig...
Apparently we are said to be made in the image of God by some religions. That is a controversial statement because of what these godly attributes are ...
I think if something is produced by the brain that is not deflationary. Yes it is odd to say that if something is in the brain then it has a marginal ...
That doesnt make sense. How could we have words like pain and unpleasant if there was no inherent negativity? And when you see a starving child or som...
Mental phenomena are all we have access to. Phenomena outside of the mind are described in shifting models by physics. Consent is not an opinion but a...
As I said pain is defined by is unpleasantness. I didn't say it was defined by it's negativity. If you go to the doctors or dentist they often say "Do...
It is not that pain is negative or bad, but that it is defined by its unpleasantness. Lack of consent and pain are real things not opinions. A moralit...
Creating a life that can go on for 80+ years of suffering is the greatest imposition. Preventing people getting pregnant is stopping them victimising ...
That appears to be a teleological claim. Biological mechanisms are unconscious. Only conscious entities can be aware that they are surviving or have f...
It doesn't make sense to me how someone could complain because I groped their arm on the bus or played music really loud near them but then is not all...
No it doesn't because infertility prevents new people being born who didn't ask to be born, who didn't express a desire to be born and will be imposed...
I think it is a common mistake to think you can add up pleasure and pain in between groups of people. Because pleasure and pain are private individual...
I think people have ignored most of what I said. I gave the example of my preference for Bach and baroque. No one has said to me that because I derive...
What was the argument as to why the future potential to consent is irrelevant? If a child you create has the potential to consent in the future and de...
It is about making life not seem futile. unfortunately I got to the point where the gloss ran out of life and it seemed like a futile imposition. Ther...
Pain is defined by being an unpleasant sensation. That is not a moral claim. I find moral claims dubious but I think you can make valid harm claims. I...
The problem is that we didn't consent to be here. When we were talking about suffering levels and making meaning we are talking about things imposed o...
There's enough suffering on earth to see why people might not consent to come here. I doubt that insects and a range of other creatures feel pain but ...
This is Richard Dawkins take on life apparently. “The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world is beyond all decent contemplation. Duri...
You are endorsing the perpetual continuation of human suffering for no good reason. That is a bigger criminal act. Preventing more suffering is an act...
The same can be said to you. I think people who suffer and people who have to suffer have more credibility in casting value on life. If there is one p...
You can walk out of a job. In most cases when you consent to something you can withdraw consent quite quickly. It's my experience. As I think I said b...
What about the simple and so far only supported scenario that people choose to create children (when they don't need to and this creates more human su...
If there is a bush on fire you could pour water on it to put the fire out. Or you could ignore it. Or you could add fuel to the fire. I don't see an e...
I don't see how intending to do something is an act of consent. You could say what you said in a trivial way about every action such as if I kidnap a ...
I think the point of consent is to recognise someone else has desires. Therefore you act towards them as they would desire. And if you have pet or chi...
The main issue for me is consent followed closely by the issue of suffering. It is wrong to make something happen to someone else without their consen...
Animals appear not to be able conceptualise issues like right and wrong. Some extreme utilitarians have come to the conclusion we should destroy all s...
I came to antinatalism by myself with no outside influence. Most antinatalist are the least sheeplike most skeptical people I meet. Your attitude high...
As I said you can't consent to be born on your scenario because their is no contract between parent and child (or contact) Usually in marriage you kno...
It's not a theory it is the null hypothesis. I know parents who wanted to have children and had them based on their own desires with no reference to p...
The notion of being forced into existence is not incoherent. The idea that we did not consent to be born is not incoherent. If I decided to create a c...
There is such a thing as informed consent. There is no point having consent if you have no idea what you are consenting to. For a soul to give consent...
I pointed out that you can't force your parents to create you. There is no evidence of people being told by an unborn spirit to procreate (I've heard ...
There is no evidence for this scenario so it cannot be a coherent excuse for creating a child. It's wild speculation. I am open to it but it is widely...
We haven't got around to examining the ethical consequences. If people don't consent to be born then it is an imposition. Once they start to exist the...
It is irrelevant whether someone can consent to be born what is relevant is they can be harmed by existing and parents have created this existence for...
The issue is about planning to create a child knowing that that hypothetical desired child could withhold consent from something. A sperm is not a pot...
I don't think suicide is a consensual act because if you do something to yourself you don't need to ask for consent. So I don't think committing suici...
My first ever post in the other "Philosophy Forum" was suggesting that the need to philosophise came from being born. That a fundamental question is w...
Chairs can never speak, apples will never express surprise. But humans will have consent issues and will have an opinion on their creation and their o...
If someone is unconscious they can't consent. So you can violate their consent without them having to be able to vocalise it. Unless you want to claim...
You can impose on someone else by having children. For instance your children are consuming and competing for limited resources and your children can ...
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