Andrew4Handel

Suffering and pleasure are often in different people and one person's pleasure does not cancel out another person pain. This is like a utilitarian ad ...

A child can reject life legitimately because it is their life and they know how they feel about it. That is when they feel imposed upon by their paren...

I wasn't claiming that I was saying that we could propose a deity based on gaps in our knowledge. If there were no gaps in our knowledge there might b...

What kind of success do you believe consciousness studies have had?

I think if you know something then it has to be certain. I believe the Moon exists because I have experienced it. My experience might be an illusion h...

I am most interested here in the value of unknowns. As I mentioned in my first post the number of grains of sand appears to be an unimportant unknown ...

There are reasons not to believe in mainstream religions because of problems with their scriptures such as contradiction, incoherence etc. I am not de...

I don't know if gods are an important unknown. It would probably depend on your notion of a god. Certain's notions of gods would be less plausible or ...

I think the only things that are impossible are logical contradictions. There are things that will probably never happen but are not ruled out by the ...

It seems impossible to find an ultimate ingredient of reality. Atoms were thought to be primary and indivisible but that was confounded by the discove...

I think unintended consequences are a serious problem for having children. Take extreme examples like Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pot etc. Were all there anc...

I think that social constructs need to reflect reality more. Personally I think we do have free will and I don't understand people who say we don't ha...

I think death is a big problem for having children. I think death is the most inevitable of harms. I think death can only be perceived as a benefit wh...

I do not think you can have a coherent moral system which allows having children to be acceptable. It undermines issues like not to harm and to respec...

There is no situation in which no person is harmed. But there is a situation in which harm is minimized and ceased altogether for humans. The pain peo...

The point I am trying to make is that we do not did not consent to anything. There is no consent implied by simply existing so that social institution...

I don't think it is at all evil to prevent someone having children. You are problem imagining some scenario like selective eugenics and genocide. Lots...

There is absolutely no reason to have children We all have to confront our own death. In my opinion creating children is malicious. It is like if you ...

What facts about life for you think are irrelevant when creating a new life? Avoiding being burnt is relevant to all life. I am really puzzled how iss...

I have not heard anyone accusing Richard Dawkins of being depressed after he wrote this: “The total amount of suffering per year in the natural world ...

I don't comprehend your notion of bias. The fact that sticking my hand in fire will hurt does not create a bias in me. It is a factual piece of inform...

you cannot consent on behalf of someone else. That is not their consent, wishes or desires. The child comes to exist what ever crazy desires those mig...

I think your notion of consent issues is arbitrary. The point is that most humans can withhold consent at some stage in their lives. Your position see...

This is a bizarre notion of consent issues. A unconscious person can not express their consent on whether they would like their hand stuck in a fire. ...

The facts of depression suicide, millions of people dying in war and slavery and genocides. I'm not making this up. It's history Syrian civil war ISIS...

I have not met any antinatalist who has reached the position in a fit of temper or angst. People in the community are often the most healthily skeptic...

How is reading about the holocaust and other mass murders and tortures depression and not just an acceptance of harsh brutal facts? I think I became a...

I find your position unbelievable and implausible. I don't to need to stick my hand in a fire to know i would not consent to having my hand stuck in a...

In my own experience antinatalism is based on the reality of suffering. Depression,anxiety, schizophrenia, two world wars, the holocaust slavery, canc...

My position is that none consented to being born and after coming to exist they did not consent to anything unless they explicitly consent to it. To m...

I think the only species capable of reflecting on the ramifications of having children (and we have consistently failed to do this) is humans. There a...

These are not the consent issues that concern me they are about endorsement of wider society and politics. Anyhow I would strongly disputes that paren...

I am talking about a complete lack of consent until someones explicitly gives consent there is no aspect of life someone has consented to until they g...

At some stage a person will be able to exhibit rational consent. A very young child already withdraws its consent for a lot of things. They often say ...

There are lots of things that should or could deter a parent from having a child. Are you seriously claiming anyone anywhere in any circumstances is s...

I am not discussing that.I am discussing the fact that none can automatically be considered to have consented any aspect of life and society. The issu...

This is impossible because no one is responsible for their existence because their parents are.

I am not talking about that. I am talking about the fact that after we start to exist we have not consented to the social or political order etc. We k...

Your English is great. I know consent to be born is impossible. I think that makes creating someone else very problematic because you cannot claim the...

I think a simple acknowledgement is vital. A change in mindset. A proper apportioning of responsibility.

I am not sure I understand this thread, however it seems to me that weak and strong are not unambiguous terms. Being well adapted is another matter. H...

Like any rational person. Life is based on force.No one asks to be born. Life isn't consensual. If you want to be consistent you should be an antinata...

There are people with depression who agree to have very invasive treatments and sometimes they work There are lots of suspicious aspect to this story ...

They could have sedated her and given her stomache peg and fed her that way. They could have forced her to stay alive for a few years trying out all m...

It is easy to win The Survival of the Fittest, just buy a gun and shoot loads of people.

I don't consider murder to be an illegal killing but and immoral killing which this definitely was.

This is a claim made by John Angell James in his book "Being Born again" from 1834. "You have Broken God's law ; you have acted as an enemy to him, an...

It seems there is an on going battle to distribute blame. I think psychopaths can flourish in this environment by appropriating the narrative to their...

But I think being cast out of the Garden of Eden is equivalent to it. There is some contradiction and subtly in the bible but mainstream religion or f...

I think the narrative is probably purely psychological. But I think the problem is that this kind of narrative has been latched onto throughout histor...