None of that follows. First, nothing stops God from telling some people to do one thing and others to do another. Second, it is conceptually confused ...
The title of the thread states it. And you stated it too, for why else did you make this observation: Do you think those of us who believe morality re...
Yes, a subtler mind would have understood the dialectic. You asked me to explain why God's prescriptions and values would not be arbitrary. I did that...
It wasn't a real question. It is not possible for the attitudes of Reason to qualify as arbitrary given that arbitrary means 'without reason'. Her att...
How can Reason's attitudes possibly be arbitrary when arbitrary means 'for no reason'? Her attitudes 'are' reasons and thus they can never be arbitrar...
You are just describing an epistemic vice in yourself and projecting it onto others, it seems to me. My philosophical views do not reflect my tastes. ...
I think you are confusing different issues. The moral law is situational in that it applies to all agents. So, if one is not an agent - that is, if on...
How is it a hindrance? To be intelligent is to be responsive to Reason. And to be good is to behave in a manner, and instantiate traits of character, ...
I am not sure I fully follow you. But if you are asking why moral norms and values will not be arbitrary if they are the prescriptions and values of G...
I have never met an intelligent buddhist. Indeed, 'buddhist' means 'bullshittist' I think. So that a buddhist thinks x is not in any way shape or form...
You are not getting it. Which is worrying, given the point is so simple. The claim that morality requires God (which is demonstrably true) is not equi...
How does it work? Water is made of molecules, yes? So, in order for water to exist, some molecules need to exist. And if some water does indeed exist,...
That's a metaphor. You think of it as a stuff, right? And that generates actual infinities. And that should tell you that that's the wrong way to conc...
The thread addresses a straw man because the claim is not that morality requires God (which it does). The claim is that moral behaviour requires 'beli...
This whole thread is a straw man. What respectable moral philosopher has ever argued that belief in God is necessary for doing good? It's just stupid....
I agree with Kant if the point is that there cannot be any actual infinities and thus there cannot be an infinity of past events. But I think there is...
Yes, and if you had read what I said carefully and had sufficient powers of understanding, you'd realize that I did not say "God exists by definition"...
Yes, you are refusing to discuss - refusing to acknowledge that your argument does not work. We are not agreeing to disagree, you are running away, ok...
That's not true. God is by definition a mind, for God is just shorthand for 'an omnipotent, omniscient, omnibenevolent mind'. Minds do not have parts....
It is painful to look directly at the sun, Dunbojones. Turn back to the cave wall and watch the shadow puppets. Oo, what's the Dawkins puppet going to...
Er no, that doesn't follow. And what do you think calling someone an obnoxious douchebag makes you, DumboJones? Focus on the argument, not the arguer....
No, I don't agree to disagree at all. I mean what, exactly, do you disagree with? Do you think my demonstration was not valid? Or do you think it had ...
Doesn't follow. Again, you don't seem to understand what omnipotence involves. It doesn't involve actually making round circles or actually making the...
I think you do not know what a 'demonstration' is, or what arguments do. They extract the implications of their premises. So pointing out that if you ...
So you are denying the validity of my argument? You simply assumed God did not exist after I just provided you with a proof that he did. You didn't ch...
I did prove God. Imperatives of reason exist. Only a mind can issue an imperative. Therefore the imperatives of reason are the imperatives of an exist...
The commands constitutive of morality. Moral standards are standards, yes? Well, those. I don't know why you mention the 10 commandments. You must be ...
We are supposing God to exist. God is omnipotent - so he can do anything and is not subject to any constraints. By itself we can conclude from this th...
Yes. There would be three purposes, not one. First, to protect others from us (met any morally perfect people? Exactly. They're not here. This is the ...
No, you don't understand omnipotence. An omnipotent being is not bound by the law of non-contradiction - they are the author of it! Thus they can do a...
We have not been 'created' to suffer - why would an omnibenevolent being do such a thing? They wouldn't. The idea makes no sense. So we are not God's ...
We can't do that, for God is by definition omnipotent, omniscient and omnibenevolent. That is, it is just what the word denotes: a person who has thos...
I have not seen the film as he seems to have gone up his own fundament since Badlands. But I find the view expressed in the quotes to be the opposite ...
It's incoherent. Adams was not, of course, a serious thinker. But anyway, if we can apply a bit of rigor to his humour-prioritizing thought experiment...
You are confused. You do not understand omnipotence and thus do not grasp the concept of God. God can do anything. A being who can create himself is m...
Do you accept that an omnipotent being can make anything perfect if he so wishes? If so, then you acknowledge that a perfect being, qua perfect, does ...
Er, I have. As should be blindingly obvious to anyone else who has. So, just to be clear Timbo, you think the cogito is irrelevant to his later divine...
If it works, then a maximally bad being would exist. That's what it would establish. And so it wouldn't challenge the idea that a maximally good being...
The devil's corollary does not work for two reasons. First, if it works it does not show that the ontological argument for God does not work, it just ...
No, the thought of my self - so, the idea of my self - is an idea that cannot be entertained absent the existence of the self in question. And thus it...
Those who seek to dismiss ontological argumetns for God by dismissing all ontological arguments are on a hiding to nothing. Take the cogito. That's an...
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