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I’ll pass. I am by now we’ll aware that you will not afford anybody a right to their own garden. What do you say to the Amazonian, then, given that th...
October 16, 2022 at 20:16
We have not agreed to anything. No social contract. Just you coming upon my garden and deciding what to do next: destroy it, steal from it, or leave i...
October 16, 2022 at 19:40
Rights come from men. That’s why I’m asking you and not God. Will you destroy my garden, should there be no “social contract”? Is this why you need to...
October 16, 2022 at 19:28
You’d destroy my food, then, and any food-bearing plants I created, because you are a superior gardener. I still fail to see how one justifies the oth...
October 16, 2022 at 19:26
Do you not believe that a man has a right, as a matter of dignity and survival, to put effort into a place of nature for his own living?
October 16, 2022 at 19:00
There we go. You believe you are entitled to the figurative and literal fruits of another’s labor because you think you can do a better job. The corol...
October 16, 2022 at 18:57
I would say the State itself was a violation of sorts insofar as it was the organized means of exploitation imposed on others, but only that the preex...
October 16, 2022 at 18:46
Nor should they be. It’s a brute fact that such abstract terms are without a referent. As intimated, the collectivism in Hobbes or Rousseau, statism i...
October 16, 2022 at 18:24
It was a question, actually, as evident by the question mark. Your efforts to skirt around it are obvious, because no one is stupid enough to act like...
October 16, 2022 at 18:12
Like Rousseau says, family is the first society. I suppose kinship could be considered natural, but then again to say “state of nature” is redundant, ...
October 16, 2022 at 17:51
Do you really disagree, though? Would you actually lay claim to a garden someone else has built and cultivated, and upon disagreeing, physically take ...
October 16, 2022 at 17:45
Deliberation.
October 16, 2022 at 16:30
A state prohibits rule of the people. It’s very function is the rule of some people.
October 16, 2022 at 16:28
That is my justification. Now we weigh that against your justification, which I suppose is coming any moment now.
October 16, 2022 at 16:26
It’s true. And history does not look kindly on them.
October 16, 2022 at 16:24
I created it and nurtured it. It wouldn’t exist had I not done so. How does your superior gardening abilities justify your claims to it?
October 16, 2022 at 16:17
It’s true. I would assume, perhaps wrongly, that you have a conscience, and some modicum of respect for the livelihood of others, their labors, and so...
October 16, 2022 at 16:04
Someone you do not know nor have ever dealt with. Another bogieman. How do your gardening abilities justify you having another person’s garden?
October 16, 2022 at 15:57
My garden? Not because I say so, but because I can justify it. I built it, planted it, and tilled it. If you can justify why it is yours, perhaps you ...
October 16, 2022 at 15:48
You and your desire to steal and appropriate another’s things is not unlike the State’s. It’s always someone else.
October 16, 2022 at 15:43
Note how no one can answer why they themselves need to be governed. I expected as much. It’s always someone else who needs to be governed, like the mu...
October 16, 2022 at 15:22
I wouldn’t do anything like a state. I’ve only claimed that there are ways to organize without the state, on grounds of voluntary rather than involunt...
October 16, 2022 at 15:17
I’m quite certain that you and I could come to some sort of agreement, neighbor to neighbor, and abide by that agreement without including a third par...
October 16, 2022 at 15:13
If it is not an explicit agreement then it is not a contract. Since a condition is not a contract, it is a poor analogy on Rousseau’s part. Perhaps “s...
October 15, 2022 at 23:11
It’s the State. They formed when one group of predatory men sought to exploit the rest. There is nothing public about the State except that they do it...
October 15, 2022 at 21:00
I use “private” in this sense to mean something doesn’t have any official standing nor is it owned and controlled by any government. I see no nefariou...
October 15, 2022 at 20:52
My own view is that states form through conquest and appropriation. They are imposed. Not one man agreed to any contract. This is because no such cont...
October 15, 2022 at 20:41
I didn’t advocate for any of those, nor anarchism. I’m speaking against the state, not for or against other forms of organization. They were examples ...
October 15, 2022 at 20:39
But the government can?
October 15, 2022 at 20:00
Very true, Paine. Both Rousseau and Hobbes believed in the social contract. Perhaps this belief, despite its lack of evidence, persists as the undercu...
October 15, 2022 at 19:58
I’m not so sure of that. History is replete with state violence and democide. There is not one human right that the state has not violated. They can a...
October 15, 2022 at 19:56
Sure you can. Private schools, private roads, private insurance, private firefighting, private healthcare, private charity, private armies, ….the mode...
October 15, 2022 at 19:55
I appreciate the effort it took to write that down, and find little to disagree with. But I’m just asking why you yourself must be governed. Rather, I...
October 15, 2022 at 17:18
The authoritarian statist barks but cannot provide an answer.
October 15, 2022 at 16:50
Quid Pro Joe is at it again. According to the Saudis he was asking them to postpone their OPEC decision to cut oil production for another month, until...
October 14, 2022 at 13:43
Life and chess are incomparable. The fact that one can move on from a game like chess is another reason why it is a false analogy.
October 13, 2022 at 19:59
Minority or majority rule is not the rule of the people, but the rule of some people over other people. And so long as democracy remains collectivist ...
October 04, 2022 at 13:41
Stop thinking in statist terms is a good start.
October 02, 2022 at 13:51
The utility of the state is a part of the problem. People think they can just set the great machine in motion and reach their desired goals, so they c...
October 02, 2022 at 13:50
Very true. States are essentially the organized means of exploitation imposed by the conquering class upon the vanquished, and it has been that way fr...
October 01, 2022 at 23:07
In: Taxes  — view comment
It’s odd reasoning, if there is any reasoning in it at all. Solidarity with the working class will never result from raising someone’s taxes. It’s pur...
October 01, 2022 at 15:24
The idiom “one cannot make an omelette without breaking a few eggs” serves well to explain that it isn’t so much a hijacking but the inevitable result...
October 01, 2022 at 10:31
In: Taxes  — view comment
The forceful transfer of wealth from private to state hands is one of the less talked about tyrannies in human history. A little math might explain th...
October 01, 2022 at 10:17
The term was once a socialist bugaboo but has become familiar with overuse. In the mouths of critics and defenders alike “capitalism” confounds more t...
September 29, 2022 at 13:13
The referendums in eastern Ukraine went swimmingly for Russia. Annexation is next.
September 28, 2022 at 13:12
It doesn’t take much to assume dysphoria and contempt for one’s own body must be harrowing. Dysphoria is the antonym to euphoria, after-all. It’s igno...
September 27, 2022 at 00:39
The contextomy was quite obvious. You even removed the last half of one sentence in order to give weight to the first half. Sorry, pal, but this is di...
September 26, 2022 at 13:40
It is meaningless. Remove the make-up, the clothes, the act, and we’ll see the reality of it all, and whether one’s identity conforms with it or not. ...
September 26, 2022 at 13:32
Here’s the real quote before you had your way with it.
September 26, 2022 at 00:08
And everyone with anti-Trump, pro-Biden points get a huge pass.
September 25, 2022 at 23:42