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Does consciousness of information constitute additional information?

I've attempted to summarize my points as concisely as possible with respect to the source text. I had wanted to explore the idea of the fundamentality...

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I'm looking at a kind of foundational synthetic-intuitive apprehension that grasps the essence of what it means to be objectively-real, across the spe...

As I said, I am working on it. An additional point that you might find engaging is the intuition of causality as a foundational element. Causality is ...

Did you attempt to read the source text I supplied? I am working on a synopsis but it will take some time. I have about 15 excerpts noted but it will ...

Cassirer also describes how this functions through a cyclical dialectic of analysis and synthesis. It is from the first few pages of the first chapter...

The Cassirer I'm just reading talks about how the inherent non-self-evidentiality of perception means that the perception of the real-objective must b...

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Some kind of "intellectual intuition?"

Perhaps there is a mode of certainty that transcends discursive understanding.

I see. So you don't really want to discuss the epistemological validity of authority from the perspective of rationality?

Meaning what? Are you saying that only some doctors are qualified? Are you saying no doctors are qualified? I already discounted the cross-domain spec...

But isn't your argument also specifically about the fact that the doctor's knowledge is inadequate because of a lack of expertise in chemistry?

Nice. Watch out for the windmills.

Sentimental Education by Gustave Flaubert After reading about the 1848 revolutions a few months back this went on the list. I like to round out my und...

Let's assume a "deterministic expectation" is a cornerstone of modernist thought. Are you criticizing modernism? Or implying some kind of functional r...

I'm not quite following. Are you saying that certain beliefs are ideally rationalistic because they are based on an appeal to authority? However (in s...

Yes, insofar as we reach the limits of current scientific capabilities. I think that the science of the mind is hitting a wall now, and that quantum p...

What else is morality but a basic act of goodwill? Yes, like Rawls' basic duty of civility. Certainly manners are expressive of a moral perspective an...

Yes, this is an example of exactly what I am saying. Except I never called anything coercive. It occurs to me that the best way to construe morality i...

Yes, but it is oriented around a more 'expansive' understanding of what consciousness is. There is a long tradition of consciousness as an interior mo...

I don't know, you say you are neutral, but coercion isn't a neutral description. Morality gives direction, it doesn't coerce. It is a person's choice ...

But can you ever ignore the empirical evidence and fact that we are fundamentally, essentially, components of a collective, which to that extent defin...

Yes, morality is socially coercive, which is to say, socially motivated and socially motivating. As I have been pointing out, this is an empirical fac...

Bottom line: the goal of metaphysics is to describe the nature of reality. Specifically, in domains that at the present time are not amenable to scien...

If by morality being coercive you mean that it indicates a course of action, this would be accurate. You might just as well say that "desire is coerci...

Metaphysics is the outside borders of science. It's an epistemological distinction. The idea that reality consists of four elements is completely erro...

The object of metaphysics is not to synopsize science. Rather, to link what is unlinked. It is the boundary of knowledge at the current limits of abst...

Additionally, the embodied consciousness thesis is often bundled with that of embedded cognition (environmental factors are also integral to cognition...

There is also the question of the well-being of the individual versus the well-being of the species. Diseases can also be the product of an interactio...

The whole premise is flawed and biased. Morality can equally be seen as an individual rising above a deficient cultural moral code. Kierkegaard's knig...

The Philosophy of Symbolic Forms, Volume 2: Mythical Thought by Ernst Cassirer My takeaway from volume one is that language (and derivatively concept-...

Oration on the Dignity of Man by Giovanni Pico della Mirandola so called "Manifesto of the Renaissance" The Warlord of Mars by Edgar Rice Burroughs

I'm ok with capitalism. But it clearly requires stricter regulation. A socialistically-managed capitalism could work.

The idea that the environment needs to be safeguarded because it is essential to life scales up just fine as far as I can see.

One-hundred percent. Presumably there will be an increase in the general level of social awareness, out of which consensus emerges the forms of govern...

Since the "well-being of the global biosphere" is synonymous with the healthy balanced operation of its component systems, of which we are one, I can ...

There's the rub. Capitalism isn't the defining feature of humanity, it is one feature of human life. Unfortunately, capitalism functions not only to m...

Thanks! I just got back from a road trip (to see the iconic Canadian band "Lighthouse - they rocked the roof off) where I found some excellent used bo...

"Objective consciousness is the observation and logical conclusion that the other being is observing" Objective consciousness is logical conclusion. H...

Except that you keep saying objective consciousness is not conscious. Ascribing these properties to objective consciousness contradicts this. Your dem...

If it is an observation and a logical conclusion then it is subjective consciousness. These are both elements of subjective consciousness. Nevertheles...

No, I'm going straight from your OP. "Objective consciousness occurs when we can know that something that is not our subjective consciousness is also ...

As I said, the idea "objective consciousness" yokes together terms which are normally exclusive (consciousness is by definition subjective) in an equi...

Isn't this whole idea of "objective consciousness" misleading? Aren't you just describing the external observation of consciousness?

I'm interested to see where this goes. I haven't read Chomsky, but I believe that science ultimately leads to metaphysics.

I've done some pretty extensive testing of ChatGPT's ability to analyze complex philosophical texts. I personally would not rely on it at all in this ...

Ok. And you do note in your OP that one of the problems with the term consciousness is that it is "too generic." I'm not sure whether that is a proble...

Microbial colonies exhibit an awareness of and adaptation to their environment (eg. The Global Brain by Howard Bloom). Which demonstrates the most fun...