Pantagruel

No doubt, consensus is complex and not simple. :up:

Maybe. On the other hand, he probably had a better grasp of quantum mechanics than most, so his credibility rates pretty high with me.

Hence the import of...consensus.

Ok. So facticity is founded in reality. Except that reality doesn't hold up under intense scrutiny: "Everything we call real is made of things that ca...

But are the facts what we know? For thousands of years humans believed that the sun revolved around the earth. And the fact is, from a strictly geocen...

On the other hand, human existence presents the appearance of a concordance of improbabilities. In which case, perhaps it is the validation of an unli...

Anticipations, The Open Conspiracy, The New World Order by H. G. Wells Seems that H.G. Wells wrote a lot of futurist social commentary. I love digging...

I think there is a spectrum of belief, stretching from things that we entertain as hypotheticals, to things upon which we are willing to act, in some ...

Not necessarily. Perhaps thought is a symptom of teleology.

Thanks, I really appreciate the references/recommendations, those are always beneficial.

Which is identical with what I wrote, no? As far as there being something "prior to thought" here we part ways. This can only be speculation, IMO, and...

Yes, I know that isn't your gist. But personally I think that the undercurrent of purpose is not disposable. There an innate conation to consciousness...

Various philosophers also consider the faculty of "intellectual intuition"

Lots of people attempt to abstract essential features of consciousness and then deny consciousness. I have never found this cogent. Rather, it seems t...

The fact that teleology exists. You can't abstract away from something that is evident. You can hypothesize what a universe absent consciousness might...

I would say that whether there is or is not such a world is precisely what is in question. And the essential fact of telos suggests to me that there i...

I don't see how this follows. Everything you cited suggest that teleology is imminent, as imminent as is the future....

The recognition then of intra-organic events, which are not merely effects nor distorted refractions of cosmic objects, but inchoate future cosmic obj...

If the sensations are fabricated then are you implying that your intuitions of objectivity are unreliable? As long as you are not effacing the link wi...

I think this contradicts an essential characteristic of transcendental intuition, which is that effect a synthesis of the subjective and the objective...

manufacturing credibility

:up: I really like this reflection from the opening: I feared I should not be able to write, from mere memory, a statement so minute and connected as ...

The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym of Nantucket by Edgar Allan Poe

Yes, Israel definitely does not have a history of genocidal persecution of the Palestinians. The holocaust halo doesn't grant eternal moral immunity. ...

Reasonable.

What should happen is that people stop try to justify and legitimize violence in all of its repulsive aspects. Morality is exercised in living context...

So you would say, on the atrocity scale, that Hamas has "crossed the line"? I wasn't aware there was a spectrum of genocidal intent. Claiming either s...

Doubtless many and many an act of thought has intervened in effecting the organization of our commonest practical-affectional-aesthetic environment. I...

It's metaphysical speculation, sure. That's why its in the lounge. Of course, science isn't sacrosanct for most of us.

Given the givenness of reality, the natural order of things is for things to fade away. So for any apparently existing structure, the tendency is for ...

It's your topic. I suggest you start one. Suppose the universe starts at a state of low entropy A and ends up in a state of high entropy B. Now suppos...

Are you saying that there is a consensus as to the overall entropy state of the universe? That would be news to me. In any case, its not germane to th...

I think whether the total entropy of the universe is conserved or not is an open question. In any case, I'm not speculating as to that at this time.

I'm getting some really clear ideas while reading Dewey's essays on experimental logic. It's roughly conformant with what's being looked at in the cur...

I think this is accurate. Per Dewey, "Every science is continually learning that its supposed solutions are only "apparent" because the solution solve...

I agree with your overall perspective....if I had to pick it would be social justice over wealth.

I'd have to say that whether or not money is useful on a desert island isn't relevant to its possessing actual and unique force in the world at large.

Arf?!?

Actually Georg Simmel talks a lot about how money achieves an independent and real function, concretizing the value of the intangible. As one of the "...

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Hence the notion of trickle down, and what trickles down.

So you are being ironic, right? Because grocery stores don't distribute unsold produce, they dispose of it.

This is also not true of many kinds of religions. Calvinistic Protestants aspire to a calling, a special task that gives meaning and utility to life. ...

I would dispute this. There is a difference between coordination of efforts and coordination of objectives. As to the involuntary force-governed coope...

It certainly might look that way, but people have to accede to that authority on a continuing basis. As I see it, money has become a resource. Resourc...

I don't understand how enlightened self-interest can not yet have reared its head though. If we settled on an income gap where the wealthiest were all...

Hardly humanist instruction. Transcendental reverie. It doesn't fit the case. The next time the woke tell me they are going to set rolling the wheel o...

Slow, or lazy? We allow ourselves to be distracted from important matters by trivialities.

Not in their teachings I think. Buddhism stress the values of ego-less-ness and humility. Who knows does not speak, who speaks does not know, says Lao...