bongo fury

So we're back where we started. Among this subset of the things we do with language, the acts of referring to specific things, are there acts of refer...

But what do they refer to?

Do you mean, these people deny that "fictional entity" is an oxymoron? Or that they have found that reasoning with oxymorons can end well?

I mean, I'm guessing that didn't end well, as "fictional entity" is an oxymoron?

and by conatists (Sorry)

Altogether now: It's like a mode of speeeeeech That you just can't define...

I did. I always do. https://thephilosophyforum.com/search?Search=Banno+use+mention&expand=yes&child=&forums=&or=Relevance&discenc=&mem=&tag=&pg=1&date...

I wasn't claiming to explain fiction according to some theory of quotation. I was alleging that your reasoning about fiction and nonfiction is spoilt ...

But @"Banno" is, so far as I observe, confusing the referent of "Frodo" in the real sense with the referent of "Frodo" in the Ryle sense. Likewise any...

Ok... from word to other word, or to idea or concept. Then who not? You, me and Goodman and Quine, apparently.

All the trouble is caused by the theory that nouns typically stand for things or persons. Refer to them. Denote them. Point to them. Correspond to the...

Well, isn't an argument but does imply the exclusive disjunction of P and Q. (Denying their conjunction.) Whereas is an argument but doesn't imply the...

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(P ? -Q) ? (Q ? -P) (Not an argument)

How many resemblance relations are there? Just the one? Or (e.g.) one for each property?

Ah well it might be what you're looking for? Constructing qualities/properties from (and reducing them to) similarity data? (Link to pdf now fixed.)

Are you (and others) referring to Carnap's Logical Structure of the World ?

The chatter of resignation, "They don't mean to but they do", always plays to me to the tune of Stardust: google tells me the line is "and I am once a...

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Indeed. Aka a "text". Nothing. Don't be greedy.

But it has everything to do with agreement about the reference of words in the discourse, as well as the things thereby referred to. No truth without ...

Do you mean where p without Tq? Or where not even p, because that's an utterance? But if uttering p is ok to describe (from outside it) the state of s...

Why not (with "J" for "is John" and "B" for "is Bald"), ?x (J(x) ? B(x)) => ?x (J(x)) ?

Only insofar as our favourite logic treats it with a special predicate (ish) called a quantifier. ?x T(x) ? R(x) But in other words, An x exists such ...

Or, e.g. for physics, some existing things are spatio-temporal regions wholly earlier than your present point of view, some temporally overlap that po...

Not as separate quotations, no they aren't. I had to go to the article to discover the editing. Oh that's ok then? No, it isn't. Don't edit when quoti...

Are you suggesting you quoted from a different edition of this article? https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://sites.ualberta.ca...

Not really. In maths and logic it covers at least "designate", "name", "refer to", "map to", "point to", "apply to", "be satisfied by", and "be true o...

Applied literally, a magic ceremony. Applied more widely, to habits more readily than instincts, I'd have thought, anything it's amusing to compare wi...

What about 'describes'? If that's too different, then probably I jumped to conclusions, and 'denotes' is singular for Tarski, as for Russell and many ...

It doesn't have to conform to ordinary linguistic usage in this narrower technical one. And this technical one itself isn't universally agreed. Or rat...

Why/how? Is it that you aren't sure whether by "property" you (or others) mean a one-place relation symbol the subset of the domain the symbol maps to...

Typo?

We didn't really get started here, did we? Never mind, I may try again tomorrow, with your forbearance.

Don't want more!

Presumably he is talking about interpreting FOL sentences in general, though.

He doesn't say models. I said models. That's what I'm asking about.

Absolutely. And Goodman goes on in the next paragraph (and the link in the first quote will take you there via page 49) to explain how he would elimin...

Exactly.

I mean one-place? (Sure I've seen "unary" quite a lot but I doubtless have it wrong.)

I assumed that by 'predicate' was meant primarily linguistic predicate or adjective, but that this corresponds roughly to a unary predicate in FOL? An...

I can't find a pdf, but here's the paragraph.

E.g.

But no problem, either? Talk of properties when glossing use of a logical predicate is eliminable? Even in model theory?

Would you (or Tarskian model theory) accept ?

I know, but as usual you don't see where I'm coming from. Yours not mine. With that attitude... ...and with those abstract nouns. Do you mean, an indi...

If it's not a rhetorical question (and apologies to the OP if this is off topic)... So not necessarily a matter of degree. Arguably a matter of discri...

Agree. Agree, but want to know if "a kettle being black" refers to any combination of these the particular kettle indicated by context the particular ...

Yes, good point, for whole sentences. Not, though, for nouns or adjectives, where the distinction is perfectly clear: use a word or phrase to mention ...