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If truth is mind-dependent, and there are no minds in world x, then: it is true in our actual world (where there are minds) that there is no logic in ...
December 27, 2016 at 17:14
Here is what you said in your post #484. What does this have to do with my summary? We are having this discussion in the actual world, where there are...
December 27, 2016 at 17:06
Issues with what? With which part of my last post do you disagree, and why?
December 27, 2016 at 17:02
You think that truth is mind-independent. Therefore, you think that there is truth in a world without minds. @"Terrapin Station" thinks that truth is ...
December 27, 2016 at 16:54
No, interaction corresponds to existence. Peirce's definition of "real" is having predicates independently of the thought of any individual person or ...
December 27, 2016 at 16:10
It seems to me that the disagreement here is over the very definition of truth, which is tied to the nature of propositions. On your (mind-independent...
December 27, 2016 at 15:43
Please identify at least one specific view put forth in this thread by @"Terrapin Station" that leads to contradiction. Even if you believe that you h...
December 27, 2016 at 14:57
Is there a written version? I am a reader, not a watcher. I did enjoy Kahneman's book (with Tversky), Thinking, Fast and Slow.
December 27, 2016 at 14:43
No, because it still seems to be expressing a version of nominalism, rather than realism. There are different actualizations of a property, each uniqu...
December 27, 2016 at 14:41
Are we disagreeing? We (involuntarily) perceive the objects as they are presented to us, then we think about representations of them.
December 27, 2016 at 13:51
Maybe, but I appreciate the dialogue as an opportunity to sort out my own approach to these matters. As the saying goes, "I write to find out what I t...
December 27, 2016 at 01:46
Just to be clear - what makes discussion pointless?
December 27, 2016 at 01:03
I perceived objects and states of affairs, which produced a percept, which disappeared immediately. The perceptual judgment that followed is what I ha...
December 27, 2016 at 00:42
Yes, and @"Terrapin Station" is aware that I make the same distinction. That is why we switched to <<whatever>> in the course of the exchange, to avoi...
December 27, 2016 at 00:32
It depends on what exactly we mean by "repeatable or recurrent entities." I would say that there are no individuals that can be instantiated or exempl...
December 26, 2016 at 23:16
The whole point is that a universal is not an individual. People talk about the earth, the moon, basketballs, soccer balls, baseballs, marbles, etc. a...
December 26, 2016 at 21:37
Right - you perceive (non-representationally) the objects and states of affairs, and then you judge (representationally) what you have perceived. In o...
December 26, 2016 at 21:04
That is one aspect; there is a continuum of shapes that are roughly spherical, including the actual shape of the earth. Even for genuine spheres, ther...
December 26, 2016 at 19:01
But it is followed immediately by a perceptual judgment, the involuntary (i.e., acritical) representation of the percept in thought. Much like a retro...
December 26, 2016 at 16:33
You are conflating its proper purpose with how it is actually (instrumentally) employed in most cases. My suggestion is that enhancing the material we...
December 26, 2016 at 16:13
I have already explained it as best as I can at this point.
December 26, 2016 at 16:04
I see it as the laws of nature, and I see it as final cause. If there were no final causes, then there could be no laws of nature - no predictable reg...
December 26, 2016 at 16:02
You say that like it's a bad thing. Pragmatism is a perfectly respectable school of philosophy. :D Engineering may not care, but at least some enginee...
December 26, 2016 at 03:44
The laws of nature are what order it toward that end. God is one explanation of those laws, but obviously not the only one. The final cause would stil...
December 26, 2016 at 03:25
And here I thought we were having a pleasant, respectful conversation despite our evident disagreements. I simply pointed out that you added the word ...
December 26, 2016 at 03:06
Peirce had an interesting take on the relations between parts and whole in terms of causation: "Efficient causation is that kind of causation whereby ...
December 26, 2016 at 01:40
I would, and so would others. Per Wikipedia, citing Edward Feser's book on Aquinas: "Finality thus understood is not purpose but that end towards whic...
December 26, 2016 at 01:29
This is incoherent to me. Particulars cannot be continuous; anything that is truly continuous can only be general. In Peirce's words, "Generality, the...
December 26, 2016 at 01:18
Non-living things, such as a ball at the top of an incline, do not have intentions or act with purpose; yet they have final causes, such as coming to ...
December 26, 2016 at 00:18
As I understand it, nominalism holds that only individuals are real; therefore, space and time must consist of discrete locations and instants, respec...
December 25, 2016 at 22:51
All forms of reasoning depend upon necessary reasoning, and all necessary reasoning is mathematical reasoning, and all mathematical reasoning is diagr...
December 25, 2016 at 21:52
The dimensionality of points (or lack thereof) is not relevant to the diagram. Think of a marked number line instead. If the marks correspond to all o...
December 25, 2016 at 18:47
Do space and time, as a whole, consist entirely of the actual aggregate of individual locations and instants? This is analogous to saying that a line,...
December 25, 2016 at 17:02
Fair enough, thanks for clarifying.
December 25, 2016 at 16:46
Okay, but "separate" implies something that is obviously incompatible with true continuity, which is why I could not give an immediate and simple answ...
December 25, 2016 at 16:37
If you require every final cause to be identical to some intention in some mind, then I agree that this is the only approach that works; but since it ...
December 25, 2016 at 16:28
I am not as interested in the content of your argument as I am in trying to sort out its logic. What you seem to be saying is that any truth about the...
December 25, 2016 at 05:33
But we do not normally assume intention, or purpose, as final cause in cases where no human is involved. Again, a seed in the ground or a ball at the ...
December 25, 2016 at 05:25
Sorry, you lost me again. What is contradictory about "All truth depends on the mind" being true about the world? What happened to your key word "excl...
December 25, 2016 at 05:16
Yes. Please get to the point if you can, I need to call it a night.
December 25, 2016 at 05:12
Okay, got it. All truth depends on the mind. No truth depends on the world. Therefore, some mind does not depend on the world.
December 25, 2016 at 05:09
Yes - I already acknowledged that two actual points on a truly continuous line are individual, and not numerically identical. What I denied is that th...
December 25, 2016 at 05:00
Again, what exactly do you mean by "exclusively"? How could there be minds that are not world-dependent?
December 25, 2016 at 04:54
There can be two actual points. Again, potential points are indistinguishable unless and until actualized.
December 25, 2016 at 04:52
You lost me. What two propositions are you claiming to be contradictory?
December 25, 2016 at 04:49
I put "adjacent" in quotation marks for a reason. No two points on a continuum - potential or actual - are strictly adjacent. Like I said, between any...
December 25, 2016 at 04:46
Please provide the diagram for "All truth is exclusively mind-dependent." In particular, please clarify the particular significance that you are attac...
December 25, 2016 at 04:44
No, there is nothing "numerical" about potential points on a truly continuous line. Every part of a true continuum is itself a true continuum. Between...
December 25, 2016 at 04:40
No one is claiming that they are logically equivalent. You seem to think that they are contradictory, but they are not. "All dogs are exclusively mamm...
December 25, 2016 at 04:29
The Venn diagram for "truth is dependent upon the mind" (by itself) is identical to your diagram, except that the portion of the circle for "World" th...
December 25, 2016 at 02:42