Jeremiah

You can enumerate hypotheticals all day long, but just because you did, that does not make it a rational choice for a belief.

That is like my entire argument. . . .

I mean, who really thinks it is a good idea to dictate their core beliefs on what-ifs? I need something more substantial.

The "if" is the part I am disputing.

This is what is in dispute here. In part this, but not so much for me.

I have read it at least 5 times.

Again: read the thread.

He/she does not want to address that, as it undermines his/her position .

Let me get this straight: Not one person here can address the fact it is unfalsifiable, all they can do is play games?

Fixed.

I believe that should be overly clear by now, that was like the first thing I said. I know you wanted to feel clever, but instead of trying to be clev...

I could dig out my books and quote Xenophon, but I think that is really just a diversion form the fact that you whole argument is nothing but a suppos...

I am sure I said this, "And that part about Socrates and death was before his execution, it was when Xenophon was trying to talk him into escape."

When you take the hypothetical and move it to a fact via the scientific method. Which is my dispute here, Cavacava's hypothesis cannot be moved, as it...

Not only does it suppose A1 is better than A2, but it also supposes only " two possible actions". To limit it down to only two, well that is a lot of ...

For me yes; however, I don't know if you are able to a make that leap.

There is a reason I called it unfalsifiable.

-Cavacava A1 = if you lay in bed all day long a magic fairy will give you a pot of gold. A2 = if you get out of bed you will have the worst diarrhea o...

Your whole argument is based on a suppose, "Suppose that you have two possible actions". The problem with your argument is that is a completely imagin...

It should be pointed out that Xenophon's writings are generally considered a more accurate reflection of Socrates. Plato liked to take creative author...

Cavacava, how about you pick on this statement...

I don't see a conflict, it should be clear enough I was speaking generally. And that part about Socrates and death was before his execution, it was wh...

If you say so, but since you didn't point out how I'll have to just take you at your word. Clearly I missed how, or else I would have not wrote it tha...

Like if I point a gun a you screaming and yelling that I am going to kill you, that seems like something real to fear. But is that really what you fea...

Do you think perhaps fear is, in some part, dependent on our imagination to even occur?

Do you really fear the pain of going to the doctors or dentists or do you fear the pain you imagine will happen?

"Maybe you can point out irrational part of this" "Suppose" It is an unfalsifiable hypothesis.

In the words of Bender "Afterlife? Pfft. If I'd thought I had to go through a whole 'nother life, I'd kill myself right now." One go around is enough ...

"How do you understand "authority"?" I thought you went to college. . . . Didn't they teach the difference between a good source and a bad source? Goo...

Then it is a waste of my time. Why don't I just go read work form someone that is an authority on it?

I have to agree with Hanover, written format is much easier to interact with. I also need to know what makes you an authority on the topic.

Staring at the wall seemed like a better use of my energy.

Because they understand philosophy better than you do.

-ism debates are a giant pointless waste of time. Most such terms are largely subjective at any rate.

Then think about it some more.

And?

I refuse to restrict my life to your standards. I mean if having a "traditional" family is your thing go for it, but doesn't mean my life is defined b...

Sorry I didn't read the bulk of your thread and just skipped to the end. Small talk is just a way for people to start the process of getting to know e...

You are clearly anthropomorphizing and multiplying entities beyond necessity.

I think the key to being genuine is to stop trying to be genuine. Honestly, the word holds no substance for me anymore, as it has become a fad word. "...

Life is definitely without objective meaning, but it is because of this that life can have any meaning we assign to it. Some seem to get depressed by ...

How can you really define the distinction between subjective and objective if we only ever are objective? The subjective world remains only ever an in...

"Creativity, art and forgiveness are not special religious insight." I agree with that completely.

I am sorry, but the whole idea of special religious insight is a plead for authority. It is an unfalsifiable claim people use to feebly leverage a pos...

People who argue special religious insight are only do so because they are not smart enough to come up with a real argument.

This isn't a response to my comments. Yes it was and I should know, after-all it was my post. A bit egotistical of you to tell me about the aim of my ...

"your depth of vision is skewed when you only use one faculty in your attempt to see" Your depth of vision is skewed when you start making up crap as ...

Let's look at a few possibilities here: God is not real: stop here. God is real: that moves us on to: Humans have no Knowledge of God: stop here. Huma...

" You can read something such as Rene Descartes, with his 'I think, therefore I am' and I realised it was based on logic. So couldn't an Evil Demon fo...