Frank Apisa

Of what use would language be if not as objective as possible. If I am speaking of a rainbow and you are interpreting that to be a fox...we are NOT co...

Yet...you posit an uncaused cause to explain it. The position is untenable...although I doubt you will abandon it. You need it because your intentions...

Sure thing. Your first words were "In definitions, words have meanings." I am merely pointing out that often they do not. I used the example of "athei...

The need for a "first cause" is an absurdity...used mostly by people devoted to showing that a "god" has to exist. The "first cause" can be everything...

Christianity is based on the supposed teachings of the god of Abraham. The god of Abraham IS NOT a monotheistic god...not in any way. So...Christianit...

I suspect the process of "truly becoming aware" that differentiated us from the lesser animals (they seem "aware" on a different level) almost guarant...

Difficult for me to understand what you were attempting to say about words...or how you intended what you were attempting to say impacts on philosophy...

It is so One...I do not do "believing." Two...any "belief" about whether gods exist or not...is nothing but a blind guess. Three...I do not do "believ...

Yeah...all that, plus one of my favorite places on this planet is the statue of Alice in Central Park. I visit Alice each time I go to the park...and ...

Leo...we have discussed this to death...and you apparently have decided you will not accept my take on things. Fine. Go do your "believing." I will no...

I've done that several times here, Janus. For whatever reason, nobody here wants to accept (buy into, if you prefer) it. The use of the word "believe"...

A significant difference, Janus. One uses the word "believe"...the other does not. So...if I think that I know X and say, "I think that I know X"...I ...

Bullshit. Any assertion made that at least one god exists...or that no gods exist... ...IS NOTHING BUT A BLIND GUESS. And when people say, "I 'believe...

I'll even do part of your work for ya: P1: P2: C: Therefore at least one god exists. All you have to do is fill in the P1 and P2.

"Blind guess"implies it is not based on any unambiguous evidence or reasoning. Any blind guess about whether there are any gods or not... ...is not ba...

I do not do "believing." First, allow me to repeat that I do not do "believing"...which, in many contexts, is using the word "believe" to disguise a g...

Some people say, "I do not believe any gods exist"...and actually mean, "I believe there are no gods." That is sloppiness in a discussion in a philoso...

Try to get over it, Leo. I do not do "believing." I make guesses...and call them guesses. I estimate things...and call them estimates. I suppose thing...

No...I am specifically NOT doing that. I am accepting it. Right along I have said that I do all the other things people do who say about those things,...

That was terrible. In fact, it was worse than terrible.

In a philosophy forum...one expects greater care with wording. If you are not up to it...no problem. No they are not. They are making a totally blind ...

Okay...thank you for that, Fresco. ’Twas brillig, and the slithy toves Did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, And the mome rat...

It is my opinion that you were not sincere when you said you were not being condescending toward me. I am returning the condescension. I understand an...

Your wording is careless. Are you actually saying you don't think people often make blind guesses...or are you actually saying you think people do not...

Sounds as though it could be meaningful to you. But I am talking about someone seriously considering questions about the true nature of the REALITY of...

Yeah, a bit of that. Also to help people too involved with themselves... ...to kick the habit. It is okay to make blind guesses...and pretend they are...

You are mistaking your condescension for compassion. I suspect (only suspect) that is because along with being condescending...you are also being an a...

No, I am not. And that sentence was particularly condescending. Well...you certainly are acting as though you are. I am not mistaken on this point. I ...

Because a guess that is not "meaningful" is pretty much a blind one. I certainly can make a guess...I could, for instance, flip a coin to determine th...

There is absolutely nothing upon which you can make a meaningful guess regarding the existence or non-existence of gods. The guess...and it will be a ...

There is nothing upon which anyone can do other than to blindly guess if there are any gods or not.

Well, I definitely do not do any "believing"...so obviously I do not "believe" that there would be any evidence or logical argumentation or rational f...

Actually...a good idea. And that is what I do. But if the subject is: What is the true nature of the REALITY of existence...and can we exclude gods or...

I do not do "believing." I do not use the word "believe" to disguise the fact that I am accepting, or supposing, or guessing. So I do not do "believin...

No need to "reconcile" "beliefs"...if one stops using the disguise "belief." The notion that the "truth" of what IS...must be "reconciled" with what c...

Still up to this kind of crap, Fresco! Okay. I guess I easily still get under your skin. Good to see ya.

I KNOW what the dictionary definition of "belief" is. But I do not do "believing"...because I do not use the word to disguise a guess, estimate, opini...

That condescending bullshit did cause me to react rather strongly. Good for me. But you and the other guy are the ones telling me that I should call m...

So...if I know them to be blind guesses...you think it to be idiosyncratic for me to call them blind guesses rather than to use "believe??????????????...

Point made...and taken. But I have done my best to describe why I say what I say. I want to be precise. And even if that is not accepted...why would a...

Two quick question for you, if I may: Do you think it is idiosyncratic of me to call my blind guesses...my blind guesses rather than my beliefs? Do yo...

I would not use "a word" to describe the things I think I know, PC. I would say, "I think I know...x."

So you think it is idiosyncratic of me to call my blind guesses...blind guesses? Really? And you think it idiosyncratic for me to call my opinion, est...

I have explained my position as clearly as possible. You simply want to insist that I consider my guesses, estimates, opinions, and the like to be "be...

Fine. YOU do "believing." I do not. As to the immediate question of whether any gods exist or not... ...do you blindly guess there are gods or blindly...

Leo...you are completely full of shit. I do not do "believing." If you are saying that I do guessing...you are correct. I do guessing. If you want to ...

Ahhh...practicing to be a psychologist by doing cyber-analysis. I see. Don't give up your day job, Leo! When a person says, "I believe there is a god"...

First Ant: But…but…what if there is more to “what is” than what we ants can see, explore and speculate about? Second Ant: If you want to fool around w...

Which is the reason several of us have taken exception to the assertion that the universe is an effect...which requires a cause. If one calls the univ...

Gotta be careful of that "better." Who decides what "better" means? Important, because the decision will always effect someone else.