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Perhaps... but that's because you keep missing the logical point Spinoza is talking about. Every time someone tries to point out what Spinoza is doing...
February 05, 2017 at 00:12
The point of intuition is you know something. It's not based on anything other than itself. To say such knowledge is based on "what feels right" is to...
February 05, 2017 at 00:04
For Spinoza, the spirit is an expression of the world. This is a critical difference because it eliminates the world's logical dependence on spirit. F...
February 04, 2017 at 23:55
In a sense, yes. Not the one most people think of though, which is why Spinoza is so frequently misread as a pantheist (rather than recognised as acos...
February 04, 2017 at 23:24
The distinction really doesn't make sense though, for every rational of "outer" thought makes use of the intuitive. All our observations and reasoning...
February 04, 2017 at 23:05
It's not a generalisation, but description. The denial of generalities does not take away similarities, types, categorisation and so on. It merely mea...
February 04, 2017 at 21:18
That's sort of the point. There are no general arguments. Each "general argument" actually picks out some specific truth. To have a group of people an...
February 03, 2017 at 23:00
To be coherent, the latter must be reversed. Space is a condition of our knowledge. Our instance of knowledge is inseparable from the logic of space. ...
February 03, 2017 at 22:53
That's why I say my argument goes against their intention. The ideal can be saved, but only by turning into its own thing, where is is no longer a gro...
February 03, 2017 at 22:40
For sure, but that alludes to the deeper problem with their approach. "Cannot perceive" is an incoherence. Perception is always an actual state, the p...
February 03, 2017 at 22:23
You sound like John trying to talk about the thing-in-itself. A priori space is... a priori space: the logical expression of space itself. It doesn't ...
February 03, 2017 at 22:16
I think that passage has the genesis for "saving" Schopenhauer's approach in a way, though it may more of a clarification of term that sort of breaks ...
February 03, 2017 at 22:03
Sigh... the point is that's mistaken. The thing-in-itself is not merely an absence of emprical form, but rather its own thing, understood and concieve...
February 03, 2017 at 04:56
We know it. It is conceivable. Rather than an absence of knowledge (i.e. a thing we don't know, as we don't have access to its empirical forms), it is...
February 03, 2017 at 03:38
The point is asking "for the nature of it" (in the sense you mean) is incoherent becasue it is defined by not having one at all. It's a "mystery" in e...
February 03, 2017 at 00:57
Just the opposite-- he saying we can know the thing-in-itself. It just doesn't have an empirical form, so any attempt to describe in such terms fails ...
February 03, 2017 at 00:44
The monism itself is the answer. In being timeless and undifferentiated,all of the many changes in the world have no impact on how it is expressed. If...
February 03, 2017 at 00:37
I'd go one further. Sometimes we do perceive it outright. We draw examples of it all the time. It's even possible someone could see it out in the worl...
February 03, 2017 at 00:31
This is what I was referring to when I said Kant derives the a priori of space and time from empirical observation. For Kant, the logically necessary ...
February 03, 2017 at 00:07
That approach is the very one I'm talking about. For Kant, the thing-in-itself is a "mystery" because it doesn't have an empirical appearance. We don'...
February 02, 2017 at 23:50
I think it goes deeper than that. Kant more or less derives the a priori nature of space and time from empirical observations-- he more or less says s...
February 02, 2017 at 23:41
I would say this context of discussion relies on dismissing Kant's understanding of noumena. To conceive S's transcendental idealism, one has to accep...
February 02, 2017 at 23:29
I think I do: Schopenhauer doesn't treat the thing-in-itself like an empirical state. He steps towards recognising as logical, rather than a thing we ...
February 02, 2017 at 23:13
That's sorts of true, but it has nothing to do with judging the chance of ravens being non-black. An instance of a green apple means the probability o...
February 01, 2017 at 23:49
No, you are ignoring the knowledge required to define a probability. You see a green apple and say it must mean non-black ravens are unlikely, as if i...
February 01, 2017 at 23:35
Yes, but that doesn't help you. That only gives you n. You still don't know x. The green apple doesn't tell you non-black ravens are impossible, which...
February 01, 2017 at 23:29
But that's the whole point. In an instance of a non-black raven, the probability of a non-black thing that is not a raven is 0. So unless you can disc...
February 01, 2017 at 23:26
The problem is when x=0, not when it equals 1. In the instance of non-black raven, x=0, as the probability of the non-black thing not being a raven is...
February 01, 2017 at 23:20
x is the problem. If there are non-black ravens, x=0 and the probability is incohrent. Currently, you have no definition of x, so you can't say what's...
February 01, 2017 at 23:10
You don't. n may be 0 for black ravens. Knowing n= at least 1 for green apples doesn't give you number of black ravens.
February 01, 2017 at 22:58
Not if n=0... which you have no way of discounting or naming a probability for. You do need to know the actual probably or we can't tell what applies ...
February 01, 2017 at 22:54
It shows your point is meaningless. You say that seeing a green apple allows you knowledge of the probability a raven is black, yet you do not name an...
February 01, 2017 at 22:43
You don't know the number of black or non-black ravens. In seeing one green apple, you can't tell if the probability of a black raven is 99.9999999999...
February 01, 2017 at 22:34
We know the relevant set to do so. By seeing one green apple, you niether know the number of green apples, number of ravens, their relationship to eac...
February 01, 2017 at 22:22
The problem is green apples have zero chance of being a raven (and black). Noticing a green apple simply doesn't say anything about ravens. Ravens don...
February 01, 2017 at 22:08
I'd be careful here. Life is frequently a concept. It's a meaning we refer to and reason about all the time. Even living itself is a concept in this s...
February 01, 2017 at 00:15
We are living. Take us away, there is no-one experiencing well-being. People may experience lived well-being when reducing it to a conception-- that h...
February 01, 2017 at 00:00
I don't think there is a "how." Truth is found in oneself because they are always the person who knows. Eliminating oneself is always an illusion. One...
January 31, 2017 at 23:43
That's why it's naive. It can't see beyond authoritarian reaction, thought to be a direct imposition of the leaders will. All it amounts to is an apol...
January 29, 2017 at 22:34
That's pure bullshit. Though, I will say it is consistent with you aversion to recognising loss. I'll use an example you might understand: abortion. J...
January 29, 2017 at 00:09
Absurd posturing. You have no less to lose in political conflict than a progressive or a liberal. If you lose, you are stuck with a society with value...
January 28, 2017 at 23:46
To argue there is no such freedom amount to arguing for predetermination-- that are actions can somehow be defined without actions themselves-- which ...
January 27, 2017 at 23:15
For sure. That's a possibility. Due to the freedom of our world (since no state logically necessitated), anyone can be a little snitch. In concreto, t...
January 27, 2017 at 22:56
Not just marriage, but also status more generally. To be (and be recognised) as an independent being, who has their own thoughts and can pursue their ...
January 27, 2017 at 22:43
It can be being pieces of shit to each other, yes (but then so is the application of authority without reference to people as free agents). Not surpri...
January 27, 2017 at 21:59
Authority is the issue for Agustino here. Patriarchy is (in part) the identification of when women lack authority over their lives and status. As an a...
January 27, 2017 at 21:34
Oh indeed, but the thing about imaginary death is that it's not death. It's only pretend. In some cases, I don't doubt the mind has associated imagina...
January 25, 2017 at 00:33
Death is not part of the fantasy. The consumption is only imaginary. There is, in fact, no death at all. In the world, they are engaged in a fulfillin...
January 24, 2017 at 00:08
It would... but then one is no longer their to enjoy the lack of disturbance, so it sort of misses the point. That it's fantasy is sort of the point. ...
January 23, 2017 at 23:54
The body is the site where one is disturbed. To be consumed is to, quite literally, remove that site. It ends all disturbance of the body.
January 23, 2017 at 23:45