Brett

A bit of confusion between Noble Dust and me. All I’m asking from you is more clarification because posts on this forum can be very vague or imprecise...

That word “beautifully” is so open to misinterpretation.

Sure, I understand.

The music you put up.

Neither clumsy nor flat footed. I’m overwhelmed by the fact that someone can write this.

Shall we start again?

Yes, is that what you want me to present an argument on, or the artist?

Art? Actually you seemed to be referring to yourself and art at the same time.

About what?

Well, unfortunately, it can be. Stop feeling so special.

What will be pointed out?

You didn’t really explain that. Your own painting that you put up on this OP works successfully using the elements of art and principles of design. Th...

What's naive about it?

Which is?

What do you mean by genre? Do you mean it in terms of subject, or technique, or style?

And if they don’t?

Of course not, and that was not quite what I meant. What I meant was having found a new way of looking at a subject artists then explore that approach...

What does that mean: “erotically”?

But not by serious readers. So if that’s the cultural perception then culture has become shallow and ignorant of art. Which is no surprise. So what is...

That’s because it is pedestrian. Mid year high school kids paint like that, which is Van Gogh’s level, everything so literal, so clumsy and flat foote...

What exactly does this mean?

I’d love to get into this but I’m not sure if it’s the right place and maybe futile anyway, in that it won’t contribute much.

He serves the suffering, alienated, passionate artist myth. Have a good look at his work and read a biography about him.

You put up a good case.

He was a post impressionist. His work is far from equal to other post impressionists like Cezanne and Gauguin. He wasn’t successful at all. The value ...

Do you actually reject all art that is not about beauty? And do you also reject the idea that beauty is cultural?

Why did Van Gogh paint as he did? Because he couldn’t paint and had no idea what he was doing. How could they be popularly perceived as ugly when no o...

The problem is how do you write about immorality without describing it? I don’t see how a book could create a surge in pedophilia, as if it might conv...

If what @"Bartricks" says is true does that mean we cannot understand art through any other means than our reason. Or is the inability to define art b...

Of course I’ve just realised, according to my theory of art reflecting culture, that art can never be dead, but it can be pretty unappealing, dull, po...

I don’t know if I can believe that, even if they say so. I understand the pleasure in the process, but art needs an audience.

Probably. But art can’t achieve anything in the shadows. It needs the light.

A corrupted society, what then? Is it possible art is already dead? Not in making a painting but in achieving its ideal.

Yes, I realise that now. My laziness. Edit: so the art produced must respond to, or fit, the idea of art.

It seems to me that your idea is that art is a concept and certain artworks are evidence of this concept and that through reason we can discern this a...

What do you mean by that?

But ultimately determining it. That would take a special sort of person, no?

Let’s call it a Harold Pinter play.

And by declaring what an artefact is and is not they are equally deciding what is and is not art. So what we have is a body determining what art is. W...

I understand that and I appreciate your test. But can you be sure that your own contemporary views about art are not prejudicing your opinion against ...

This is the test, I guess. Why would it be regarded as art 20,000 years from now? I still need to know what aspect of reason is helping us.

Do you see how that just takes us back to the beginning.” I don’t know what art is, but I know what I like.”

I think one of the things an artist does is renews our vision or perception of things. There are many painters but not all of them are artists, as the...

But why?

I trying to determine why the artefact is not a work if art. From what you say you believe that these artefacts from the past, these totems, have no r...

I don’t think the Nefertiti bust is a work of art in the sense we see it. But I do think there’s a lineage that connects it. I think we went from thes...

I think you are confusing ”the elements of art” (line, rhythm, repetition, etc.) with art itself. and organisms performing “actions equating to the ac...

“In fact, talking of artists in pre-Renaissance times is an anachronism,” says Rieber. The figure of the artist as we understand it today—that of the ...

Regarding “The Venus of Willendorf”. Does this mean that there is no “art” to be retrieved from that era and that the appearance of “art” only appeare...

However, this is just too much to go along with. If everything is art then there is no art. Edit: and the discussion has to be about more than opinion...