Brett

No, it's a nation divided.

Have you ever considered this; that Trump voters and Sander’s voters might both be against the same thing.

Do you mean that people like me are the problem?

It’s possible that you’re playing into the hands of the real problem.

Does any of this contribute to revealing the real problem?

I understand that if you believe racism is institutionalised in America that you find it abhorrent. Who in their right mind wouldn’t? But if that’s in...

I don’t know. Do you? Incontrovertible truth is what we’re after, no?

If you want. You may be right but so far I don’t think you’ve proved your point.

I think you know what my point is. These incidents may not be issues of race but of circumstances.

But wait a minute, he wasn’t black.

I wasn’t going to reply to this then I decided to, largely because I wanted to clarify my position to myself. I was not trying to derail the conversat...

Baden, you just proved me right.

Baden, if I had no one disagreeing with me I could easily prove it doesn’t exist.

That doesn’t work. If I start an OP saying the opposite, that the OP assumes it, then only those who agree with it can post because otherwise they’re ...

Interesting how the mods dominate this discussion. Baden, you’re basically saying that one can’t disagree with the OP, that if you want to participate...

Great post. Thanks.

Your right of course, if systemic racism is a fact. But I’m just referring to the research and the fact that you viewed it only in terms of statistica...

Then maybe you’re thinking of things in terms of a collective. Which I had considered, but I don’t think that works in terms of the state today. It’s ...

To be fair that research is not just about fatal shooting numbers but about the race of officers involved in incidents and how that relates to issues ...

That’s interesting research, but it doesn’t address the permanent, general harassment of blacks and black neighbourhoods by the police, which may be u...

Like some sort of organic, unconscious entity?

Then who’s applying the power, who has the monopoly and who’s doing the protecting?

By state do you mean the machinations of the state; the unelected members, the permanent established bureaucrats, or the elected government?

The search for the core problem.

I don’t agree with that leap from the systemic problem of cops becoming hardened and disconnected from those they are meant to serve to institutional ...

Achievement, or success, is a powerful American ideal. I think it’s more idealised in the US than any other nation. It’s a problem that it’s expected ...

I’d agree with that. There is actually a very powerful black upper class who have success and influence. So that drive for success is not specifically...

Thank you.

Yes I’m aware of that video. I don’t think that’s a convincing argument. Nor do I understand how a black could become a President in a racist society ...

I think it’s possible that the police force is not racist but that there are cops who dislike their job and the people they deal with until they reach...

But this is a problem but it’s one that can be applied to whites as well. Whites are accused by blacks and whites of being “privileged” and being “pri...

I think a mental prison is very formidable. You could even consider social mores as a mental prison. To break out of a mental prison you need outside ...

It seems to me that we have a predilection towards pattern, order and proportion, and it seems more prevalent in males, the rate of autism in males be...

There you go.

Your too smart for me.

That’s cheap baiting Baden.

Why’s that?

This is not a philosophy forum. What a joke. You’ve all fallen into the same hole.

I have no idea what you really mean.

What’s the obvious you’re referring to?

A lot of us watching the protests and riots in the US will feel that we’ve seen this before. But there’s an interesting element added to the mix these...

To recognise perfection wouldn't we need to be perfect ourselves?

It could be argued that most humans don’t live with a God that they didn’t chose, but that they chose every day whenever they think about God.

I don’t see any evidence of playing dumb. But maybe it’s possible that I don’t see it. So point it out to me.

I’m not familiar with it but I’ll look into it. Thanks.

Yes, that’s exactly what I’m asking. Apply your own mind to the the situation or are you going along with Rousseau who thought people did not know the...

Okay. Now address this OP with what you know about the Michigan riots. how is your link relevant to that? Don’t give me theories from Wikipedia. How d...

you can’t really expect me to know what you think. Maybe instead of “why” I should have asked what you mean by “extreme altruism”.

Definitions seems to be quite broad and most likely defined on the basis of ideology. Weber called it “ a polity that maintains a monopoly on the legi...

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