Brett

You mean this is science.

It seems to me that actions come before words. Things are named. The word doesn’t create the thing.

If the Greeks had not named it do you think it would still exist.

How so?

I’m using politics as a form of interaction between people. “The affairs of the city” are the affairs of the people. First the people then the institu...

Auto-correct. Should have been ‘existence’ which I corrected. Edit: and that should have been ‘existed’.

What I meant was that people existed as tribes or collective long before the development of Greek cultures. So in the sense I’m talking about politics...

Tribes come before Greek culture. It’s origins are in trading on an individual basis for necessities. Based on what I just said I think that trading b...

No, it’s not about what we are now, it’s about our basic origins, what drives us and what feeds into other things. For instance politics comes before ...

Poetry’s just my word for the expression of the unconscious mind, creativity is the result.

My feeling behind this OP is that politics is not about values. It’s originally a state of being, of viewing the world around one in terms of personal...

I was thinking about how humanity seems to keep on behaving in the same way throughout history. So I wanted to try and prioritise those things that dr...

So is overpopulation our biggest problem? It is if people think it would take the destruction of the environment to feed them, or You believe it’s the...

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Can you clarify exactly what you mean here?

It makes all the difference in this OP.

None of those examples are for the sake of population control.

I did look it up. You do have a point about the health problems cause by the necessity of having an abortion because of the one child policy.

Nor you, even to prove yourself right.

As opposed to having two or three.

You want me to look for evidence to prove myself wrong. Really.

You made the statement about health, you come up with the evidence of having one child being a threat to womens’ health.

. Yes, your right. Edit: but it is about limiting the spread of HIV. The effects on population are not the intention.

This is the problem. Just what do we mean when we talk about the overpopulation problem?

Stopping the spread of HIV is about health. You can lump it in with population control if you want but that’s stretching it. You had said that the pop...

But they’re not framed in terms of overpopulation, you just chose to do it that way.

It’s not very clear who you’re talking about here. Population numbers seem to be most dire in countries where people struggle to get through the day. ...

Not much of this has anything to do with over population. Again nothing to do with population numbers.

I don’t know if I’d agree with that, nor do I think that Capitalism rests on the existence of a reserve army of unemployed. The whole Capitalism thing...

I see the yelling and bitching has already started. Just ignore it. I was following a train of thought on this. Let’s say it’s not ethical, let’s say ...

First of all I see that as a moral position. If the problem is ethical then the answer is ethical. Feed everyone now and sacrifice the future. Save th...

So the answer is in ethics?

This is how I see it. Is people starving the problem or the damage it would take to feed them the problem?

So what is the primary problem of over population? And whose problem is it?

What I’m trying to say is that if we could feed all these people without damaging the environment, if that was possible, would you still regard popula...

So you don’t think that, in theory, redistribution could change things?

I think there’s a difference between managing the resources and population in a country like Australia and Africa or India. Australia could manage it,...

How would that help India’s population problem for example? They had an imbalance without the modern consumer lifestyle. “Capitalistic economic growth...

If we care about other countries besides ourselves and our alliances?

So is your point of view coming from the idea that we can’t feed the world population, that that’s the primary problem?

No I didn’t even notice. Slack on my part.

Does this include ideas like high density living? High density living, as practised in our big cities is a lifestyle. Is that detrimental to cities li...

I’m thoroughly confused now.

I thought it was related to Africa and Asia. But yes, you’re right.

I went there but I don’t get it.

Well I guess that’s natural selection at work.

Any intelligent person would realise how little they know. But to realise that then one needs to be intelligent. And what makes someone intelligent? I...

I don’t think that’s necessarily true. We are no longer “ one consciousness experiencing a small part of the world and influenced through your particu...

No, clearly not the world, if your assumption is correct. But you cannot know if the posters are from countries like Africa or Asia. Or maybe you refe...

I don’t think it’s so bad being asked to read them, but pointing them out helps. But the books are just a metaphor for knowledge passed on. What do we...