The same story but not the same moral to the story. Which moral of the story do you see? Should Adam not have eaten and derailed god's plan? Regards D...
My view is closer to the Jewish view that shows us and god coming out of Eden as successes and not the failure that Christianity put to it. Let me let...
Why, when gods are here, as Jesus pointed out, to serve humans. That is good, not evil. As you can see, I do not define gods as supernatural and so th...
It is what? Reality belies that, given that, what, the top ten rich people own 90 odd % of the world. All they have to do, and have done, is buy the p...
Actually, the reverse is true if you reverse the Christian take of a fall to the original Jewish view of Eden being where man was elevated. The idiot ...
I thought I was doing just that by showing the contradiction in Christian thinking of calling Eden where we fell, --- while at the same time them sayi...
You are correct in that there was no real sin in the consuming of knowledge. That is why it has been shifted to the desire to be a god. The less astut...
You would not be able to know, so, like all religious or spiritual thoughts, we would have to gage them by their moral content. If Christians did that...
He is a liar just as all preachers of supernatural gods are. They have to be given that they have no access to a supernatural realm. Intelligent peopl...
That may be true, but we do know that some of their teachings were plagiarized and or forged. Even the name Christian was likely plagiarized from the ...
?? There are no documents signed by Jesus that I know of. He was illiterate and followed the Oral Torah. He may have been a Pharisee because they also...
Yet the bible is clear that Adam's loins were not involved as he did not even know he was naked before eating of the tree of knowledge. Sin must first...
Christians, with their homophobic and misogynous teachings, would berate a gay or woman but not a straight male. Thanks for the opportunity to show yo...
What is tough love is Christianity and it's homophobic and misogynous teachings as well as the idea that a genocidal prick of a god can somehow be goo...
Yes, but a better you is born. One could say reborn. I have experience a paradigm shift due to new knowledge. It is quite a process. I think it advisa...
Buddy. You started with this flat out lie and you want to chat!!! Stop lying and I am here for you. No I did not bother reading your other lies. I am ...
I need proof of hell, and see none, and know that it is illogical and god destroying if a god would have to create such a place, --- for purposeless t...
When a law is well written, mercy is built into it or not required. Mercy is arbitrary and a rapist, for instance, should not get mercy just for votin...
Not to your genocidal prick of a god please. He is more satanic than Satan if you could all the bodies and include all the innocent babies and childre...
Not for gaining their education and no longer being blind to their nakedness. Yopu do not likely walk about in the nude around others and should under...
Yes it was, just not to your satisfaction. I did not know I had to stroke your ego for every little thing you get right. I usually speak to what I dis...
Believers are not listening to their hierarchies. Not surprising given the amount of lying the preachers of the supernatural based religions have to d...
Been there and don that a long time ago. On my axe to grind. If you are happy with the homophobia and misogyny, then do nothing to fight it. You not u...
All who believe in Jesus and or the Christ, have to read scriptures literally as that is the only place, basically, where anything is said of a Jesus....
Sigh. How often have you heard some a hole Christian say, god said Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve? How often have you heard, he shall rule over you,...
I agree. As to perspective, I mentioned the Christian take and the Jewish take. I did not mention the roots of the Jewish myth as coming out of Egypt ...
Yes, that being the answer to why Christians are so conflicted on Eden and cannot seem to decide if we fell or were elevated, yet the myth has been us...
So you think Yahweh augmented the pain in child birth out of spite? Do you have anything scientific to show that serpents had legs in the past? They a...
Michael. Who was there to report what Satan and Jesus said? Let us use logos and not mythos. Test all things is good moral advice regardless of who or...
Jesus showed a way to think. I have embraced it, but others have the same teachings. I use him as an example because most people I chat with can then ...
By basically living that way most of my life. The clincher, when I chose to take the Gnostic Christian label after suffering my apotheosis. I know I k...
As an esoteric ecumenist, I take out what I want and approve of in all thinking system's, even his, and discard the rest. If all he believed in was hi...
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