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But that would still be a systemic problem, and still a problem that would disproportionatiely affect black people, so it could reasonably be called i...

I think you misunderstand what the theory behind white privilege claims: namely that all white people (in a given society) have white privilege, regar...

How do you know it's individual cops "choosing" to be destructive rather than a system that encourages them to be destructive? What's the difference? ...

Slightly off-topic, but the Stanford experiment is no longer considered scientific. The results haven't been replicated and there are concerns that th...

How do cops solve a structural problem, especially with aggression and violence? Didn't you just write that this is an impossible demand due to the st...

Couldn't you argue that Presentism presumes that same power, it just names it "time"? The human body would be less of a problem, since what we know ab...

Presumably, that depends mainly on your interpretation of the equations, i.e. on metaphysical speculation. If it's many worlds, maybe you are an infin...

Here is what an eternalist might say: There is neither passage of time nor motion. Simply different spatio-temporal locations. Your mind simply appreh...

I wonder if that whole "good cop / bad cop" dichotomy ought be rejected as bad framing, just like the good protester / bad looter dichotomy. It's abou...

The whole "electing your prosecutors and judges" thing has always struck me as insane. I don't think it's the only way. After all, plenty of police fo...

So I have been thinking about this bit. Is there any reasonable expectation that this time around, there will be Bipartisan support for change? That t...

I don't deny there is genuine dispute, but the dispute isn't necessarily productive. I cant shake the feeling that the discussion simply runs into a l...

This sounds less like you're talking about quality of life, and more like you're talking about individual happyness. From what I have heard, happyness...

There is good metaphysics and there is bad metaphysics. Not every conceptual issue has an answer. In the case at hand, all you're doing if you move fr...

See this whole discussion just seems confused to me. And noticing confusion is important. What is it we actually want to know? We already know how tim...

How would anyone know whether it's real? There is no possible source of information on that question.

Even his comedic value was very limited.

And that's the problem with left wing movements. The right wing may be morally bankrupt and their policies reprehensible, but they do know how do buil...

Why spend your time calling out potential allies on their supposed lack of ideological purity, rather than, say, use the common ground to build an eff...

Sorta, kinda, maybe? It's difficult to tell what people actually think. Several people have been accused of openly calling for riots and destruction. ...

Why, you already have all the wisdom, don't you? You're the ultra woke communist revolutionary, the one who will single handedly stick it to the man. ...

As trivial as it is, probably half this thread is people mistaking one thing for the other.

Precisely. Once the discussion got more level headed, agreement re-emerged. It's important to keep in mind that you can accept the protests, with the ...

True. I agree with that. I was thinking the piece you linked was more aimed at the people doing the protesting, not some guy on an internet forum.

Possibly. But the "dog/human" analogy is flawed, because dogs don't have abstract reasoning, but humans do. A super-intelligence might be incomprehens...

I don't see why it wouldn't be possible. Though of course the notion of "us" being turned into "something else" is problematic, because at that point ...

The way you put it, it makes a lot more sense. I do agree with that analysis. When I read the phrase "outside agitators" I did not take it to mean opp...

How would that work? What's demeaning or intimidating about outside agitators? Also is Jacobin telling us that asking the question "are there outside ...

I think it's very difficult to assess the value of the rioting if what followed was organised armed violence, i.e. war. Unless we're in a position whe...

Fair enough. I get your point, even. I am just not sure how to balance supporting their grievances and criticising their tactics.

Fighting a literal war of secession is a patently absurd suggestion. I am not saying they must be condemned because they are violent. I am saying they...

Has anyone disagreed with that specific point? I know all I have been doing is questioning the strategic value of what is happening. So have others in...

I don't entertain the notion that anything written in this thread materially affects the outcomes for oppressed communities in the US. I am just comme...

And that is a useful way to spend your time? Which violent protests have? Just saying what doesn't work isn't enough.

I don't care about Target loosing money. I doubt they do, though, they probably have insurance. I don't se any evidence that what's happening is hurti...

How does that work in practical terms? Do the affected communities hold their own trials by force? That was a literal war for independence though. Are...

Also obvious civil war potential.

The entire tone in this thread is histerical IMO, some of your comments included. And how did that work out for the people that armed themselves? Not ...

And the only "controversial" thing I have said is that I don't think stocking up on weapons to defend against corrupt policemen is going to work. What...

Haven't the US been running that experiment for decades now? In all other contexts, people agree that less guns usually leads to a better society. But...

If that's all you have to say in response, so be it. I just wonder what it is about this topic that has everyone collectively loosing their minds? We ...

Who am I denying any right? Am I saying they shouldn't be allowed to arm themselves? No? Then don't insinuate that I do. You can hold your own in a ra...

You aren't this stupid, what the hell is wrong with you? Have we not had threads on gun control on this forum? Doesn't everyone with 2 braincells agre...

To protect the locals. That's their job, after all. More shooting means more people getting killed. Do you want to bet more people die on the "right" ...

And any violence was always going to be used to deligitimize the protests. Where does that leave us, strategy wise? Is there any strategy? Are you tel...

And if the protests had been peaceful to begin with, that entire argument wouldn't have happened. Perhaps the reason we're arguing about the violence ...

If you don't institute any measures - like the US and the UK, there is nothing to obey in the first place. It's not like everyone did the same thing a...

I think it's pretty disingenous to suggest that is the sentiment. The sentiment, well ingrained into our culture, is that protest ought to be peaceful...

Yeah, it's not like South Korea was the worst affected country after China at the start of the pandemic...

South Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Australia, New Zealand?