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I don't understand your points here. Banno, one or two sentences aren't going to explain these ideas. :nerd:

This isn't as precise as I would like it to be, viz., the phrase "...it's not dependent on what's going on in the head." This may be where Banno and I...

It's difficult for people to get away from the idea that a concept represents something in the head/mind. It's even difficult for those of us who have...

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So based on your last reply, I'm not sure if you agree or disagree?

You are correct, any concept, which by necessity is based on a language, and the shared rules of that language, is social in nature. This social natur...

I agree Banno.

For me it's simple, and not as complicated as most people are making it. We see the actions of animals and humans, and based on these actions we can r...

My guess, and it's only a guess, is that money will morph into something completely different at some point, ala some kind of cryptocurrency, which wi...

All I'm saying is that the above argument follows, but the conclusion would change based on the number of tickets bought. Originally you included P4 a...

This argument I can agree with, but it's more complicated than that. Here we're talking about what's probably the case, and the inductive argument abo...

If all your saying is that no one ticket will win, obviously that's true, but the argument doesn't appear to be saying that.

While it's true that for each ticket that ticket won't win, it's not true that if you buy P1, P2, P3,...Pn that no ticket will win. That's like saying...

For my purposes I don't see the need. This discussion, if I remember correctly, started in my thread on epistemology, and one of my points was that th...

The conclusion doesn't follow. Validity is a component of deductive arguments not inductive arguments. I think the way one should look at this argumen...

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Ya, I think the idea that money has to be backed by gold is incorrect. Trust in a currency is probably more important than anything else. If trust is ...

Yes, I think many economists keep an eye on Japan. Many predictions about what would happen when carrying as much debt as Japan didn't happen. Many of...

I don't think it's accurate to say that W. worked from the conventional notion of JTB. He examined the notion of knowing using a variety of language-g...

I agree. All beliefs are meaningful to the one who has them, but I don't see how this adds anything to the discussion.

I'm not saying it's not meaningful. I'm just saying that it's seems weird to talk of beliefs in this way. All beliefs are meaningful in some way, it's...

lol You don't like referent, and I don't like the phrase "meaningful to the believer." It's interesting, at points I think there is agreement, then so...

I agree with this Creative. So it appears that you agree with the idea (extrapolating from what you stated) that we can observe beliefs in animals and...

The way I think of concepts is in relation to words, but you seem to want to say that concepts are much broader in scope. How do we normally use the w...

My point is that they have no concepts because concepts are a necessary feature of language. What is a concept apart from language? I have no idea wha...

I understand that not all words refer to objects, but some words are used in this very way. Think of how we teach certain words to children. We teach ...

I think we agree. However, you didn't respond to the most important part about referent. What do you think of this point?

Your posts are so long it's difficult to reply to everything. I don't necessarily believe it's a bad thing, because some of my posts are long too. The...

I agree that there are beliefs that are existentially dependent upon language, viz., beliefs that are linguistic (statements/propositions). Thus, if I...

Very true.

Maybe I'll be arrested. :wink:

I haven't read any of that since my college days, which was quite a while ago. Wittgenstein gives me enough of a headache. Leibniz would drive me insa...

I'd be interested in understanding what you mean by "...provided that said consciousness is not a distinct "substance," or anything of the sort." Do y...

I agree with much of what you're saying Wayfarer, especially the part that says that Dennett spouts a bunch of learned nonsense. However, it's not unu...

Sorry I don't always get back to every response. On some of these ideas we're in agreement, or at least close, but in other areas we seem far apart, b...

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Actually a tautology is true due to it's logical structure, so it would be something like, "Either George Washington was the first president of the U....

Ya, I would say it's tautological, but I don't see how that makes it logically suspect. For example, if I say, 1) All men are mortal. 2) Socrates is a...

To be honest the older I get the harder it is to post in these forums. Whether rightly or wrongly, I read some of this, and it makes me want to pull m...

I know it's not a discussion of Wittgenstein, but Wittgenstein has some important ideas that are relevant. The term belief is what the thread is about...

That's fine, but I would rather stick with Wittgenstein's analysis on much of this.

Yes, there are other criteria, and I've been talking about it all along. It's our actions that show our beliefs quite apart from language. The simple ...

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There is very little to compare between Wittgenstein and Descartes. Wittgenstein's ability to do philosophy compared to Descartes is like comparing a ...

What about the statement "I cannot doubt my existence," doubting my existence shows my existence. This statement cannot be coherently doubted in any w...

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They are beliefs, they can be prelinguistic, which are shown in a form of life, viz., one's actions. Here I'm not just talking about prelinguistic man...

It's true that we philosophers talk about beliefs in terms of language, and in terms of being either true or false. However, Wittgenstein's hinge-prop...