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Why doesn't everyone just sum up their views of truth in roughly two to three paragraphs. No responses to the summation, just your particular point of...

Okay, thanks for the discussion.

What does this difference amount to? How is Fred's false belief different from someone's true belief, other than one propositional statement is true a...

You don't see the difference between what I wrote and what you wrote? Are you suggesting that what you said is the same as what I said? I see a differ...

"There's an English Oak over the road." This is Fred's belief. So, instead of it being the English Oak, it's a Cork Oak. So, Fred's belief is false, i...

Let's stay with this for a moment. I don't see how a proposition that's true, has meaning apart from what one believes to be true. What I'm saying is ...

That's basically what I've been saying, but in terms of use within our forms of life. So, I think the best way to look at the concept truth is in a Wi...

Philosophy isn't useless, that's not what I'm saying, some philosophy maybe useless, but to lump it all together as useless is to not understand the n...

lol Is that what I said, that philosophers and scientists really really like being right. I cracked up when I read this. Although the latter part of t...

The only thing odd, is that you didn't see the connection between my reply and your response.

That's why we should look at the meanings of these concepts in terms of use (social linguistic constructs), and in terms of Wittgenstein's family rese...

We could all use some caution in our views, especially since we're at the edge of what we can claim to know. Moreover, it's very difficult to know at ...

I don't believe my views expressed with Creative leads to this conclusion. What in particular leads you to think this? I think you've expressed this b...

I would word it slightly different, the concept tree, includes the notion of something existentially separate from language. Whereas the notion of tru...

I'm speaking about linguistic concepts, but you seem to be suggesting a broader sense (thoughts, ideas, etc, - I'm just guessing, since you didn't say...

Maybe you could have an experiment where you see how the brain lights up when using a concept like toy, as opposed to how the brain light up without a...

How would this be about concepts, as opposed to their brain's relationship to a moving object?

First, I take it that concepts, are necessarily linguistic, unless you can demonstrate how they're not. Maybe you can have a wider definition of conce...

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Part of the problem is in separating those concepts that have an ontology that is separate from language, and yet part of language; and, those concept...

The mouse is in a particular state-of-mind, but it's not equivalent to our linguistic states, in particular, our beliefs as statements. So, the mouse ...

Saying that talk about true and false amounts to talk about what people believe, is not the same as saying that all belief "amounts to an attitude tow...

Yes, I do deny it. I don't see how you can have true and false apart from propositional content, which is necessarily linguistic.

So, what I posted didn't clear it up for you?

Where did I say, "...truth is equivalent to what people believe" When we talk about truth, we are talking about what people believe, or what they beli...

For me to give a decent response I'd have to do a lot more reading, and give it a lot more thought. At this point though, I'm inclined to be more Witt...

Ya, I definitely find it problematic that we need some metalanguage to define truth, because of the paradoxes that arise in our everyday language.

I didn't want to reply in your thread, since it's an exegesis, so I replied here. Banno said the following: "Tarski took that notion and applied it to...

It is well grounded. What more of a grounding does one need in this situation?

As I've said in many posts, there are different ways of justifying a belief (different uses), and her grounding or justification is a sensory one. She...

I don't think this is about hinge's, at least not how I interpret hinge's. However, it's a good example of justification, sensory justification. Look ...

I've been reading this thread all along, so yes, I did see that. She knows.

Using IS giving an account of it, don't you think?

If anything they show what JTB is not.

You also find this in the Gettier examples, a bit different, but essentially same.

There is no fact of the matter in that sentence. Many of these kinds of paradox's don't amount to a hill of beans.

Each of these can be answered, I don't see a problem. But to think that "p is true, if and only if p" is some kind of answer, is to say nothing meanin...

When we talk about truth, we're referring to what people believe. Some theories provide a better answer to the question of truth than other theories. ...

No theory of truth is going to cover every use of the concept truth. It seems that most uses of the concept, though, do point to a relationship betwee...

Which is why use tells us much more about these concepts, i.e., tells us much more about meaning and understanding.

True.

I like to keep things as simple as possible. If someone was to read through this thread trying to understand the concept truth, they'd be confused as ...

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I just want to add a little more to what I said in my last post, and I apologize for interrupting the ongoing discussion. One of the main differences ...

One of the differences between Wittgenstein and Davidson, it seems, is Davidson’s idea that rule-following and convention is not essential to “languag...

Well, I wasn't suggesting that the thread would cover all of Davidson's ideas. We will disagree as to whether Davidson's ideas flow parallel with Witt...

I've already started reading about Davidson in the SEP, so yes, that's where I've started. I'd rather start with primary sources, but that's a lot to ...

Banno, before I respond further I'm going to do some reading on Davidson. I'm not that familiar with his work. All I have to go on is what's being sai...

It seems the further we look at W. the further apart our disagreements become. I'm not really a fan of Davidson's ideas.

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