He does not claim that we cannot name them, but he does not name them. He claims that they are the elements of elementary propositions, but without na...
Facts are composite. What is composite cannot be fundamental. The possibilities of objects occuring in states of affairs is in the objects themselves ...
The problem, as I see it, is not the claim that there are simples but naming them. If we cannot name them we cannot give an analysis of elementary pro...
We are in agreement regarding his a priori assumptions. The idea of something fundamental, however, is as old as western philosophy itself. It persist...
Does his failure to prove the assumption that there are elemental building blocks mean that it is wrong? The larger problem is not the ontological ass...
He does not say that the world is linguistic in form. He says that the world is LOGICAL in form. It is this logical form that makes it possible for la...
How so? No single quote can capture the whole of the steps of his interrelated argument. Do you mean this? To compare a proposition with reality means...
The problem you raised about limits: The metaphysical subject is not found in the world. It is not a relation between things in the world, but, rather...
The proposition "The cat is on the mat" is true if the cat is on the mat. The limits of my language play no role here. The problem Wittgenstein is poi...
In the Tractatus objects and their relations are independent of the mind. The logical structure that underlies language is also independent of the min...
But he does not state any elementary propositions either. Which is a rejection of the ontology (objects), epistemology (analysis), and metaphysics (lo...
It depends on what one from an exegesis. Some may regard the fact that elementary objects, names, and propositions are assumed a priori is satisfactor...
How do you explain the absence of even a single example of an elementary object or name or proposition? Or did he identify any elementary objects or t...
As I understand it, as they are used here those symbols denote any two elemental objects. There may be conventions that I am not aware of, but I assum...
https://grammar.yourdictionary.com/punctuation/rules-for-using-single-quotation-marks.html In general, logic uses proper names. Wittgenstein specifies...
Yes, I disagree to the extent that if elementary objects are not identified, that is, known, we cannot say what their relations are. It is clear that ...
He used the term 'name' in a way that is different from the way we ordinarily use it. Names referred to the simple or elementary objects. What they ar...
The classic example is the fate of Socrates. As a result Plato and Aristotle had to be much more circumspect in order to protect themselves and their ...
Why they do this is an interesting question. To begin to answer it requires looking at specific examples, but this does not yield a single answer that...
Although a picture, that is, a representation or proposition is itself a fact, he makes a distinction between the representation and what is represent...
Wittgenstein distinguishes between facts and propositions which are representations of facts. The proposition, a statement about the height of the tre...
"Atomic facts" and "atomic propositions" are Russell's terminology. Wittgenstein did not use this terminology. He refers to "elementary propositions" ...
My initial post: https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/717045 Sam's post is in agreement with what I had posted prior to him. The German i...
Do you mean the opposite route to the same destination or one that leads to the opposite or a different destination? I think it important to keep in m...
The first part is correct. The world is not a collection of simples. The second part, simples are states of affairs, is incorrect. It is the relation ...
Smolen is a big fan of Leibniz. He has pointed out that it is only fairly recently that scientists have ignored or disparaged philosophy. He points ou...
And some regard it as nothing more than quaint and misguided ideas that are primitive and from which he have progressed. I think Heidegger was on the ...
The Greek term translated as virtue is arete. It means the excellence of a thing. Human excellence is the realization of human potential. Someone who ...
@"Art48" In the Tractatus Wittgenstein attempts to construct the world beginning with what is simple or elemental. Corresponding to simple objects are...
In his later work he blurs the lines between seeing and saying, seeing and thinking. Seeing is active, conceptual, constructive. Language reflects thi...
As I understand it, what is at issue is the status of a mental picture. It is not as if he is arguing for the elimination of mental pictures, but that...
You may equate a picture with a theory, but that is not how Wittgenstein used the term. In the Tractatus a picture represents a state of affairs. He h...
He is talking about "a" picture, not picturing or representations in toto. (PI 122) A surveyable representation, an übersichtlichen Darstellung , (alt...
The ways in which we picture the world is a prominent feature of both the Tractatus and PI. In the later work, however, he rejects the notion that log...
Yes, as I just pointed out, with regard to ethics and again with regard to logic. I have done considerably more than that. I wrote my dissertation on ...
What he says, as quoted, is that ethics/aesthetics is transcendental. It is only once this is acknowledged that we can discuss what it means. I agree ...
It was not a matter of certainty, but of propositions having a sense, a meaning; they represent some state of affairs in the world. Ethics/aesthetics ...
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