I was just rhetoric, I don't even know her. The point I was making was that given some arbitrary recipient of modern 'incivility' (here I just randoml...
Perhaps we could put it this way (although I'm not sure if this isn't more suited to the Cancel Culture thread... In terms of harm done to the poor, t...
Well yes, that's kind of the point. From the comfort of a 'say anything' environment without any physical commitment being acceded we should expect no...
Ah yes, but we're in the comfort of our virtual lounge talking about it. If we can't even muster a virtual cheer for the virtual punching of a virtual...
Aye, you may be right. I don't really have my finger on the pulse of protest movements anymore so I'm looking at all this from a distance. It seems th...
I agree, but I don't think many wouldn't. Who's not up for punching a Nazi! ...but there's not that many Nazis around any more. There's anti-abortioni...
This is what's really weird about debates like this. I don't think anyone disagrees that there's a time to give up talking and reach for something str...
Does he? I defer to your greater knowledge here, but your assertion really surprises me as it upturns a huge portions of my understanding of Wittgenst...
Cool. You used the term in response to mask mandates. Masks were mandated by a specific group of people, so referring to them in that way is a judgmen...
Thanks. My reading of Wittgenstein is limited to PI and OC plus a few random papers, I acquired the impression I outlined to @"Seppo" only from a sing...
Oh, that's not my understanding of the deflationary position at all (which, for me, is admittedly mostly from reading Ramsey). Do you have to hand any...
Exaggeration is one thing, making something up entirely another. I don't believe the letter mentions numbers. Let's say, then, that the entirety of 'c...
Well, you may be right. What I considered myself to be addressing was the issue of... ...the answer being, no. It's nothing to do with re-balancing th...
No, that would be perverse. I'm talking about what he should have done. Passing commentary on his actions, as us without the power to influence decisi...
I get... ...which is the sense in which I meant it. Making such a promise being aimed at maintaining the status quo (appearing to address reparation f...
The nature of the promise is the political expedience, not the keeping of it. Agreed. Now show that what I've said is such a thing. Otherwise your com...
Right. So you'd agree with me, on this topic, then, that the presentation of data from the CDC, FDA, journals, experts etc. should not be presented as...
The reason why there's so little representation of black women on the supreme court is centuries of removal of opportunity at each step necessary to g...
What 'upset me' if you want to put it that way, is that you thought it reasonable, on a debating platform, to dismiss @"frank"'s contribution with a d...
But this is more or less a correspondence view of truth, if the aim is to understand what Wittgenstein was getting at in OC, what do you think using s...
Yep. So why isn't it? The point being made is that if masks only help when used right, why mandate them in situations when you know they're not going ...
I'm struggling to see your point...is it that two minutes of internet searching wasn't enough? Yes. Probably ten or more might have been better. I'm n...
...are all forms of media. Or are you seriously of the opinion that whilst the unrivalled lobbying power of the largest organisations the world's ever...
Alright then... Why not? You lamented the lack of examples, examples were given. Is there something else you're missing? As I said to another poster m...
Neither your agreement nor your disagreement were the point. The point was entirely that you designated people's serious concerns as "hard to take ser...
Much to my disapprobation. No, of course not, I was being agitative. The point was that since no one here is making those claims, opposing them doesn'...
You were just repeating what praxis said. I don't see how that helps, it's a discussion, not an opinion poll, but fair enough, it seems I should be ta...
Here's a good article from Jacob Hale Russell giving really good overview of how these narratives are built, here with cloth masking, but the same app...
How? All of the information most people get is from media of some description, so using their prior 'knowledge' (from previous media reports) to disce...
Well no. That's like me saying "You don't see the obvious illogicality in everything has a bias", or "everything has an ideological assumption", or "e...
Right. Good catch. That's the hypocrisy of some imaginary interlocutors well and truly exposed, I'm sure we can all vividly imagine them scuttling bac...
Thanks for the article links. Some hilarious journalism, the Scientific American piece was brilliant... ...What? Complicity between government and med...
You have a very broad definition of 'cancel culture' which apparently encompasses all social proscription. I'm talking about the trend of small vocal ...
No need to apologise, I just find the position absurd. You admit that "there are indeed rackets and obviously many want to influence the public discou...
Yeah, that's the point I'm at too. I don't have any objection to 'cancelling' people for saying hateful things, or telling lies (especially dangerous ...
Yes, these are hardly examples which are buried out of the public eye, but I suspect the overwhelming temptation to dismiss the concerns creates somet...
To quote an expert ...all you've given me is a reddit group. Who have they 'cancelled'? How does any of that activity link up with trans rights? How d...
It's not clear what point you're making. Both right and left wing try to leverage this new social tool to suppress opposition. The question wasn't whi...
Go on... I'm fooled because... Give me some examples of people being canceled because of their pro-wealth positions, or for supporting slave labour co...
@"Benkei" For the removal of doubt. This is what I mean by cancel culture... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathleen_Stock https://www.imore.com/spot...
You talk about elites and the powerless, yet every issue at stake in 'cancel culture' avoids class like the plague. Are there no rich black people, no...
There is indeed. That doesn't mean anything you think are lies count as lies. That way no discourse can ever take place. You have to have space for so...
Februrary 18th already. Typical Russians. Late as usual. Too busy organising Canadian truckers and missed their deadline most likely. If we're all goi...
Absolutely. What I object to is the insinuation that it's paranoid conspiracy simply to argue that people haven't had good intentions in any given cas...
I didn't say it did. It's a constant theme here (in reflection of wider society)... Glance back over my contributions on this thread. Who's making the...
You realise passing off moderate centrism as the only truly wise assessment in all situations is a 'stereotypical character'. It's pretty much the arc...
Not at all. The point I'm making is that it's ridiculous to argue that the government's draconian interventions in this pandemic are all for our own g...
Uh huh, nothing to see here, everything as it should be, always was, always will be... Appeal to mediocrity isn't an argument, no matter how well it f...
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