Absolutely. I see it from a pragmatic, rather than logical angle (though the same problem, I believe). There will forever be a need for some language ...
Yeah, Karen Wynn is married to Paul Bloom (another Psychologist - we're all married to each other, it's quite unseemly!), and he works a lot on opposi...
As far as I can tell those reports come from tweets by the Azov battalion. https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1513603720646467589?ref_src=twsr...
This is a common tactic. Ignore disagreement over premises and then act with faux shock at the apparent disagreement in conclusion. It's about as subt...
So what factor (or factors) governs the difference? Are you suggesting that the policies of the ruling classes have resulted in no deaths? Yes. Which ...
If... ...and... ...then how come... ..., when the lack the necessary 'groundwork' for those behaviours to emerge. And furthermore, if it's true that.....
Possibly. I was trying to give a charitable understanding of the ethical naturalist position (despite not really being a fan). Personally, I've never ...
Those are not metrics. I'm asking you how you measure whether someone (or society's) well-being has been harmed. That measurement is required for the ...
I think that morality has more than one aspect and we often conflate them. My personal relations with others do not generally get modulated by any con...
In what storyline do you think I'm someone who doesn't know that? I presume none (you may imagine a young child has joined, but a simple check of my v...
How? Websites, newspapers and social media spreading 'misinformation' have been increasingly banned since Covid times. Naysayers have been ridiculed, ...
And yet... The US has had none of the factors you describe from Russia yet you say it is experiencing the same (or similar) problems. Doesn't that at ...
Fancy showing solidarity with Ukraine without doing anything concrete! It's a good job none of the contributors here would be so shallow as to spend p...
For clarity... I take a linguistic view. That which is 'moral' is that for which we use the word 'moral' and are understood. So if I say "punching old...
Absolutely, so we're left (are we not) with at least one factor that might be common to all moral statements that is neither their direction of fit, n...
The issue is as I've described it, one of underdetermination. Sugar intake is not fatal, so excess does not limit 'being'. You're in danger of using t...
Is it though? Can we not think of mind-to-world statements about our relations with others that are still not moral statements? Perhaps "we ought to s...
Those evaluations are clearly predictions. "the effect on well-being of X will be", not "the effect on well-being of X was" I already have. Children a...
To be fair, the article never made such a claim, but notwithstanding, I don't see how it follows. The declaration that one ought to do X is a declarat...
I'm not talking about finding out in future, I'm talking about a disagreement in predictions. If your metric is the harm to well-being an action might...
Your disingenuousness isn't the interesting matter here. If that's all you're prepared to offer at the moment I'll wait for another opportunity where ...
How's that in the least bit relevant to... ...? You presumably have an opinion on whether one ought to discuss the role of the US, Europe and NATO? Yo...
The relevant chapter of the Handbook of moral development is also available online here https://cpb-us-w2.wpmucdn.com/campuspress.yale.edu/dist/f/1145...
Right. So for any moral choice, one might say (using your 'metrics'). "Look, see how much harm action X is doing, it's surely immoral". But someone el...
You were referring to responsibility... ...you could at least follow your own argument. How does who's actually fighting create a categorical differen...
An argument for preference, yes. The claim I took issue with was about the difficulties of not using religious doctrine. That would be a bit like me c...
I don't know the circumstances well enough. Perhaps something more simple. Denying a child sweets. Clearly causes measurable harm in the short term (c...
Indeed. I don't see anyone denying a difference in scale. You are attempting something much more categorical than that. Why does the difference in the...
You first. You excluded talk of the US, Europe and NATO because this is about Ukraine. Why are they excluded but not Putin? You'd argue that despite n...
I included that (plus divine revelation) when I said... ... The point is there are more people alive now than have ever been. So if some small portion...
I am talking about what's happening in Ukraine. The US, Europe and NATO are instrumental parts of what's happening in Ukraine. Not only that, but they...
Add to that the US warmongering to enhance arms sales and reconstruction loans, and the US deliberately spreading misinformation to those ends then - ...
How so? Religious doctrine is written by people, no? Enlightened, divinely inspired, directly in touch with god...if you like, yeah. But still people....
I've read you both being broadly supportive of it, particularly the moves in the direction of NATO. So all the more odd then that you seem so opposed ...
It strikes me now that this sums up nicely the issues with your responses (and to an extent @"Olivier5" and the conversation I'm having with @"neomac"...
One more time for the slow ones at the back... We have no say whatsoever over Russian policy so whinging about it is nothing but empty virtue signalli...
They could. But no one writing on this thread is being bombed by Russian despotism, so that's irrelevant. Both your comment and mine were directed at ...
Imagine that. Anyone thinking solutions are so simple. Like thinking it's either full out war or Russian despotism. What kind of an idiot would be so ...
So how does this 'fact' link to the morality of fighting for one's nation? Lots of people value money too. Does that make fighting over money moral? I...
http://www.archaeology.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/6_6_46A-Wapping-Demolished-.jpg Peasant cottage. During fuedalism, either owned or permanently...
Well there's... Or there's ...but that's not the point. The point is, I haven't just claimed you did denounce NATO as a motive. Whereas you said of me...
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/us-using-declassified-intel-fight-info-war-russia-even-intel-isnt-rock-rcna23014 And most shockingl...
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