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Yes, that's right to an extent. If we look at, say, the ecosystem, then that will have it's own Markov boundary and all the organisms within it (and t...
July 16, 2022 at 07:40
Are you suggesting that people no longer suffer from cognitive biases?
July 16, 2022 at 07:16
So presumably has happened with a great many theories already? Providing an example shouldn't be too much trouble then.
July 16, 2022 at 07:10
You two have a very distorted view of the degree to which the general public read psychology papers! I'd venture the general public are aware of less ...
July 16, 2022 at 06:58
This is bare assertion. You've established they create an injustice. You've provided no argument at all that it is a 'great' injustice. You've not giv...
July 16, 2022 at 06:44
Uh huh. So is $500 grand valueless? No. If you were comparing the scheme you outline to one in which $400 grand remained would it be a better or worse...
July 16, 2022 at 06:38
This is the best paper on the maths. This one puts it all into context. Put simply, a Markov boundary is the set of states which separate any system w...
July 16, 2022 at 06:31
As ever, I have no idea what you're talking about. Why is there even a reason for the behaviour of neurons? They just fire according to physical laws,...
July 16, 2022 at 04:56
Yep. That'll probably be why I said... So tell us. How bad is that injustice? If I don't get my fair share cake at the village fete, that's an injusti...
July 16, 2022 at 04:54
Yes. That's what I'm saying. We have (and have had) all sorts of narratives by which we explain the world, some of them have been shown to be worse th...
July 16, 2022 at 04:53
Indeed. But it would create a person whose existence would bring enormous benefits to the other humans already in their community. It takes a particul...
July 15, 2022 at 20:18
...or a pointless distraction, depending on one's outlook... I thought Frankish was sympathetic to Dennent's arguments, I haven't followed his work mu...
July 15, 2022 at 20:18
So? You've still not demonstrated anything about the degree of this injustice. Some injustices are only minorly bad, some injustices are monstrous. Si...
July 15, 2022 at 19:08
Well, they'd have to be either qualia or some brain activity which no one, despite decades of research, has ever seen... Hence, qualia. We know with q...
July 15, 2022 at 18:54
Ah, we've reached that point have we? Shall we go through https://www.semanticscholar.org/paper/Quining-Qualia-Dennett/b00cba53a3744402b5c52accea35bff...
July 15, 2022 at 12:42
No. There's a hidden red state, which he's less effectively taking a policy of treating as blue.
July 15, 2022 at 12:40
We've been through this. If I mistakenly call the person in the doorway Jack when his name's really Jim, I'm still referring to the person in the door...
July 15, 2022 at 12:36
If this was the case we'd have no explanation for why exposure to coloured non-objects (colour swatches) triggers activity in the inferior middle temp...
July 15, 2022 at 12:33
That's not a trivial sense. It's the sense in which 99.9999% of the population see. I can't understand how you could justify calling that a trivial se...
July 15, 2022 at 12:20
No, they're not. That's not how blindsight works. people with blindsight have non-striate stimulation from neighbouring cortices within the occipital ...
July 15, 2022 at 12:03
This isn't true. There are numerous differences in the neurological process of dreaming or imagining other than the source of the causal trigger, but ...
July 15, 2022 at 11:38
Can you see the red dress in your photos with your eyes shut? Or are you imagining the red dress when you have your eyes shut and seeing it when you h...
July 15, 2022 at 11:01
But... ...in response to.... ...is advocating a policy (Ukrainians beating Russians in a war). If you want to just register outrage, then just post "i...
July 15, 2022 at 10:56
I don't see how. 'Seeing' involves light entering the retina. The response can't be 'seeing' it can only be part of 'seeing'.
July 15, 2022 at 10:51
No. I'm saying that second use is incorrect. Seeing a hidden state does not cause seeing a blue dress. We do not 'see' mental representations, we resp...
July 15, 2022 at 10:46
This is talking about how neural network models might represent neurons, not how the physical instantiation of those models represent the external wor...
July 15, 2022 at 10:41
Seeing is a process. Like riding a bike. Two people can ride a bike differently. They're not necessarily riding different bikes. They're riding the sa...
July 15, 2022 at 10:39
Not at all. See above. Seeing is the process of updating predictions about external states. Two people can have different predictions about the same s...
July 15, 2022 at 10:34
An analogy, perhaps. You and I are both trying to guess what next week's lottery numbers are. You guess 2,4,5,6, I guess 7,8,6,5. We have different gu...
July 15, 2022 at 10:31
In that instance (where we're saying that person A is right), person B is 'seeing' the hidden state X, but the policy they're seeing it with is not th...
July 15, 2022 at 10:27
Agreed. But the question is what we ought do about it, not what we ought call it.
July 15, 2022 at 09:32
No. That's not what enactivist accounts of cognition are saying. Note, the Bayesian beliefs are about external states. The subject is an external stat...
July 15, 2022 at 09:12
Hopefully made clear by the paper I cited above.
July 15, 2022 at 09:05
Uh huh. Here's Friston on enactivist interpretations of active inference. You'll note the clear use of Markov boundary models. Enactivist cognitive th...
July 15, 2022 at 09:02
Why would I do that? That's not the way we use the word 'pain'. We use the word 'pain' to describe our subjective feeling. We use the word 'ovoid' to ...
July 15, 2022 at 08:42
Ovoid is a property of some hidden state which causes your 'ovoid-as-seen' and 'ovoid-as-felt'. There. What's not clear about that?
July 15, 2022 at 08:36
This is just begging the question. External things are ovoid. They are just other shapes as well. Like the stars of Orion, the fact that they form a m...
July 15, 2022 at 08:32
All true. So you think it's OK that other people die to uphold your personal moral code about not negotiating with terrorists?
July 15, 2022 at 07:40
What oddly sociopathic hopes you two have. Wouldn't it be better if fewer people died? For Ukraine to win, many, many more people will have to die. Uk...
July 15, 2022 at 07:18
This is indeed all valid and sound. It soundly proves that there is a negative aspect to procreation, that it creates a situation in which there will ...
July 15, 2022 at 07:09
No, they are not built to represent a thing. It's simply not what they do. They produce responses which minimise the surprise function of a prior pred...
July 15, 2022 at 07:00
So I'm finding. And yet that's where these discussions tend to go (it seems safe ground from the anti-realist). I don't like squash either, but if it'...
July 15, 2022 at 06:53
I'm not here to entertain you. I'm here to point out the flaws in your argument If you don't want public critique of your arguments then I suggest you...
July 15, 2022 at 06:51
Do you think people would still feel that pleasure on a planet empty of all human life bar them? Would they look around a fell good that they're causi...
July 15, 2022 at 06:49
Variance in what. There has to be medium for the variance to be a variance of. Change in what? This is the assertion I take issue with. I see no groun...
July 15, 2022 at 06:47
Indeed. One of the perils, I think, of creating such a complex system as language is that it has the facility to create such grotesque castles in the ...
July 15, 2022 at 06:40
An intrinsic property. So I'd say "the postbox is red". You'd say " the wave particles you imagine are a postbox scatter light at a wavelength of 650n...
July 15, 2022 at 06:34
Almost every human in the world agrees that the postbox in the village is the same colour as the bus. We need an explanation for this extraordinary co...
July 14, 2022 at 17:19
The conclusion just doesn't follow. A hidden state might have the property of causing one response in person A but a different response in person B. T...
July 14, 2022 at 17:12
Why?
July 14, 2022 at 16:59