Vichy France officially surrendered to Nazi occupation and continued to fight a strong civilian resistance. Poland never officially surrendered, but w...
Nice. Bit of jingoistic nationalism. Very much in keeping with the slide into the far-right Europe has recently taken. I think we finally have a good ...
Although... You do know that minimisation of the holocaust is a crime in some countries, right? I don't know what jurisdiction TPF is in, but the clai...
As I said on the other thread, if you want to embarrass yourself by claiming that the difference between Nazi Germany and 1930s England is about the s...
That might have been a solution, yes. It may well have saved thousands of lives on both sides. The idea that full on land war is the only way to comba...
https://thephilosophyforum.com/discussion/comment/714502 Oh look. It's one of the people who've been critical of all the pro-western cheerleading, wha...
I don't see how that does anything but dodge the question. My question is about the "many excellent moral reasons to help the Ukrainians". You dodged ...
What it's called is irrelevant. We're talking about the moral judgement of it. So, to get this clear, your new claim is that there's zero moral reason...
Well, if you think that then the action is even more reprehensible than my interpretation of war profiteering. Using Ukrainians as a human shield agai...
No one is speaking on their behalf (well the Ukrainian government are, but that's their job). We are supplying weapons, training, finances, propaganda...
Could have stopped there. Any reason why you'd oppose moving to a less ferocious situation from a more ferocious one? Let me guess, is it borders? Nat...
Well, if Putin or his representatives aren't available for talks, then clearly no deal can be made. Do you have some reason to believe that's the case...
OK, so I suppose we'd have to be clear what we mean by theft. Can one steal opportunity (future resources)? Can one steal labour? I think these are th...
I don't really see it as a matter of good faith so much as a pragmatic decision under uncertainty. What we know is that Russia at war is truely awful....
Your opinion of what would have happened in a hypothetical situation doesn't then constitute evidence for your theory. Evidence for theories comes fro...
We all (hopefully) share a horror at what Russia are doing. My point was to distinguish between what may be the Ukrainian objectives and what ought be...
What nationalistic claptrap. So when Great Britain's border extended to India and half of Africa they were about the Great British people wanting to a...
You and I may have a very different idea of what US interests are. You seem to be working on the interests of the country, I'm assuming the interests ...
Yeah, I think too little attention is paid to this and I suppose what I'm trying to say about corporate structures is that I think they might be parti...
I think that's right. I can't believe even Putin would have been reckless enough to attack NATO, and yet may not have wanted to risk an invasion witho...
Who said anything about why the Ukrainians are fighting? Read what I've actually written, not what you expect your little caricature of me to write. I...
I agree, but the exact figure wasn't pertinent to the point. One would hope no sane individual would even see a tenth on those deaths as being a worth...
And in Russia? Is your claim that the Russian bans are in any meaningful way more draconian. Are there literally no anti-Putin outlets left. Is YouTub...
Well, it's a good job we haven't just flooded the world's largest black market arms trader with a shit ton of untraceable weapons. That would be a dis...
Yep. @"Olivier5" really takes those 6 points very seriously. Apparently they're worth sacrificing thousands of innocent lives for in a massive land wa...
No. You were talking about freedom of the press, then @"boethius" pointed out that many of those same repressions were active in Ukraine so you pivote...
And what exactly do you think Putin said about the press he banned? That it was spreading the truth but he didn't like it? The point of a free press i...
I'm not going to repeat the argument that @"boethius" has already made against the distinction you're trying to make. Though I will emphasise the main...
OK, let's clear up a few potential blocking differences. Firstly, death is death. If your loved one dies from childhood cancer it's not somehow less e...
This sounds like the "there's no point making it illegal, they'll just find another way round" argument. Trotted out regularly to avoid any legislatio...
Interesting. I think the balance is about the extent to which those caveat that you admit (colonialism - both old and new), and ecological abuse, are ...
If you're going to have the indecency to talk about me in the third person at least read what I fucking wrote first. The question was about the relati...
It's scary how easily the caricatures are cemented into narratives which then build support for actual policy. The evidence isn't even hard to find, t...
The demands couldn't have been clearer and were delivered pretty near the beginning of the war. No NATO membership, independent Donbas, Russian Crimea...
Yes, I see what you're saying. I'm going to sneak in another leftist dig here though and say that this is why the corner shop is used. Its why @"Hanov...
Jesus. Can none of you read? REDUCE. Reduce. Reduce. Not sure if all caps, bolding, or underlining works on you people so maybe all three. We're discu...
Both Russia and Ukraine have been accused of summary arrests and torture in the contested regions prior to the wars. Read the fucking reports before m...
So no actual counterargument then. Thought not. If in doubt resort to accusations of apologism and return to shitposting random articles without comme...
So? Are you completely incapable of following an argument. The question is about which strategy is most likely to quickly reduce the scale of war crim...
I can't think of a single precedent. In no circumstances at all, that I'm aware of, throughout history, have war crimes continued on the same scale af...
On what evidence? What evidence do you have that war crimes continue in occupied territories after the peace deals have been signed to a greater exten...
Oh, well maybe an answer this time then. What is the link between the scale of the atrocities and the efficacy of continued war as a strategy to limit...
So your 'sources' are the CIA, and the arms-industry-funded Atlantic Council? Phew, thank goodness we've finally found some unbiased sources without a...
And...? How does the scale of the atrocity have any bearing whatsoever on the most effective method for stopping it? The Yugoslav wars were the scene ...
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