It is, yes, but there's this element of a polarising effect with social media too that I think classic propaganda had begun to lose. Opinions can get ...
Yeah, It's a question of 'how scared do you want to be' that determines how deep you look. The recent court filings from the Eric Schmitt lawsuit, rep...
Your claim was... X achieves Y by Z. So how does Z bring Y about if Z doesn't cause Y? Really? A cause is when some action leads to another, a correla...
Excellent argument. I should save that one up for anybody arguing that diplomacy hadn't been tried, they'll be absolutely trounced. Any opinion on my ...
What arguments did you provide? ...is not an argument. ...is not an argument. ...is not an argument. ...is not an argument. Happy to treat like with l...
Distinguishing correlation and causation is pretty basic stuff. What proof do you have that joining NATO/EU was the cause of the changes and not a con...
So? Both were soviet systems. You said the system couldn't change. It did. Right, so there's absolutely no justification behind @"neomac"'s claim abou...
They're not the same, and they don't relate to the 2022 invasion. But we didn't declare that we would in advance as a means of preventing the war. Non...
1. Parts of it were. The bombing of Dresden was a disgrace. 2. We'd tried a peaceful resolution to the border disagreements, it hadn't worked. 3. We'd...
We've already talked about that. You embarrassed yourself by claiming that the difference between Nazi Germany and 1930s England was about the same as...
You do realise both Ukraine and Chechnya were part of that same system, right? So is it impossible to change, or isn't it? Ought we be suspicious of e...
Why would I need to come up with an alternative? I think dividing the world into lines of nations and electoral districts is an excellent way of admin...
Yes. The claim I disputed was... In support of the claim that... It's absolutely racist to suggest there's any link whatsoever between past war crimes...
If you have anything to say about nationalism then why not join the conversation? Otherwise I'm not sure what your rambling on about the practicality ...
Yes, it's truly terrifying. What I think is most frightening about it is that there's so much less human involvement in social narratives these days. ...
Nothing. Who said there was anything wrong with nations? They're a very efficient means of administering (hopefully) enfranchised populations. Same fo...
As I said. Lazy racism is not an improvement on carefully thought out racism. Absolutely nothing that happens today is justified by the actions of peo...
Do I seriously have to explain racism to you. "Black people have dark skin" - fine. "Black people are all criminals" - not fine. "Russians have Russia...
Of course. The solution is to correct that shitty exegesis, not demand proof of it. Thus isn't an exam, it's a discussion. If my exegesis is incorrect...
No it isn't. Look it up. I never claimed there's no such group. My claims are of the form "there's no such group as "the Russians", which...". It's ab...
There's no such claim, it was a long discussion. I'm not citing the entirety of it again. As I said, people can read it from the links in the quotes p...
I did quote you. That's what the quote function does. People can read the full posts, they're linked to the quote in question for that reason. I'm not...
Here's the discussion we were having - the context We were talking directly about @"neomac"'s false claim that there was some contiguous entity called...
And Chechen troops? Syrian troops? The mixed nationalities of Wagner and Rusich? The Ukrainians fighting on Russia's side? You can't slither out of it...
I don't understand how any of that is a response to the point I was making. I'm merely calling out @"Olivier5"'s disgusting use of calls to nationalis...
https://nypost.com/2022/10/26/russian-anti-war-vigilantes-bomb-key-rail-route-to-belarus/ Some great work by the people @"Olivier5" encourages us to o...
Yep. Very popular. So's football. What's that got to do with morality? There have been considerable tensions in these regions for centuries, yes. Larg...
The primary actors and the primary decision makers are not the same thing. The soldiers could refuse to carry out orders, but they have no mechanism t...
There's lots in the UDHR that is not about morality. If you think nationalism is a moral cause then I can't stop you, but I don't think you'll find ma...
Yes. Hence the need for such arguments, as opposed to the unsupported generality that there's some moral weight to national identity alone. It is a me...
I didn't say they weren't a democracy without reason, but the fact that they currently aren't simply renders you statement untrue. Ukrainians are not ...
In addition to my response above, Ukraine is not currently a democracy. Opposition parties have been banned, severe restrictions on free press are in ...
Matters that have moral weight tend to relate to issues of humanitarian needs or virtues. Either the behaviour in question can be shown to lead to som...
Directly, it's up to the actual soldiers, diplomats and support staff doing the fighting/negotiating (they could refuse). Less directly, the governmen...
Right. Then we're in agreement. There's no moral weight whatsoever to the opinion of the 'Ukrainians' over the opinion of anyone else with a stake. So...
What question do you think that's an answer to? I asked what moral weight there was to consulting the citizen of Lvov and not the citizen of Rostov. Y...
I didn't say they ought not be consulted (a moral proscription is very different to the mere opposite of a moral prescription), so I'm not sure why yo...
It wasn't my quote. I was paraphrasing @"Paine"'s "...be consulted", so the question is better directed there lest this whole discussion be based on a...
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