Oh, well that clears that up to everyone's satisfaction then. What exactly did you mean by it? I wasn't querying the epistemic element of the expressi...
No, it's not an issue for anyone. What started this whole line of argument was the assertion from philosophy that neuroscience couldn't adequately des...
You asked me if i agreed that science had removed everything mental from it's field of study. The answer is emphatically no. How's that not relevant? ...
Well obviously not. What do you think psychology is the study of? Neuroscience? Sociology? Psychiatry? - These are all fields of science studying ment...
I'm afraid I have no idea what you're talking about here. I don't recognise a thing 'being' to say whether it's presence is absurd or not, I don't kno...
This is the exact claim we are arguing about and no argument is forwarded in it's support, it is merely claimed as if it were fact. I'm beginning to t...
Yes, but what expressions would you use to do so. My guess is that they would be similies and metaphors, ie things that are similar but not identical....
That's actually what I meant by "come about", I should have been clearer. I meant to distinguish it from my understanding that such laws are made-up, ...
Supplementary question: if the empirical sciences cannot address laws of thought (whatever they turn out to be), then how would philosophy have a bett...
I don't think that laws of thought do "come about". I follow Ramsey in considering laws of thought to be habits we develop to better achieve our ends....
If @"Pattern-chaser" is confused by my expression, I've no doubt he'll ask. I'll try to do better than "read what I wrote" in increasingly shrill tone...
Yes, and "what it's like" there is doing the job of "similar but not necessarily identical". So the meaning of your expression might be something like...
Great, then provide a short summary of it, not the two claims which you quoted. An argument is in the form - axiom, rational step(s), conclusion. All ...
You're presuming it's 'like' anything at all. In my lexicon, 'like' means similar to, but you're using differently here to mean, what exactly? What, e...
Let's take its premises and steps then. 1.. Here he summarises the conclusion he is about to reach. 2. . Here he is providing us with our first empiri...
@"Janus" has already touched on this in his responses to others, but there is a simple argument against this position which is very strongly related t...
Firstly, the 'word-salad' was related to this below (and at no point did I say it was "meaningless", I asked what it meant) Secondly the 'ramblings of...
1. Note the 'if', 'and' and 'then'. I've bolded them because you clearly missed them last time. My statement is just a deductive one (not that that ma...
Yes, but the point is it is a property which you 'feel' you have, not one you can demonstrate to others that you have. You have defined the term by so...
I brought Up Patricia Churchland specifically because she is a philosopher. There seemed to be some suggestion that the 'thoughtful' philosophers coul...
My response is that I don't agree. I don't agree because I think you've sublimed the term "consciousness" where it is not warranted by any real phenom...
Yes but you can't "do" a "way it works". A "way it works" is a state of affairs, to do is a verb, you "do" actions, or activities, not states of affai...
Yes, probably so, but if peer-reviewed, controlled, statistically constrained investigations are going to be taken with a pinch of salt because of the...
And to presume you can't already presumes a certain philosophical stance. So what are we to do? Ignore each other and hope we go away? Or accept that ...
We have a huge amount of work to identify consciousness in anything like an accurate neural correlate, but the idea that consciousness is related to t...
Probably, yes. As I've said a dozen times, it depends on your definition of consciousness. Your definition seems to be "has a property which I persona...
The trouble is that proportionality does not always get instigated in the first instance, but it is present in the law. We have laws against littering...
So, as I said yesterday, I'm not sure what this has to do with the argument. I don't see what the fact that the reason for the code isn't in the actua...
Balance of harms. As I've been saying throughout. They didn't like the music in he day either, but the harm is not great enough to completely remove o...
Yes, I have. I co-manage a farm, we had a small festival on it, the neighbours complained about the noise and we were told we had to turn off the musi...
Oh, I see. So the ECtHR thinking that hate speech should be legislated against is not sufficient evidence that there might be a link to some harm, but...
No they won't. It's written abundantly clearly in the ordinances. Air conditioning noise above 42db is not allowed - day or night. And that is not eno...
No. You additionally said that your ideas here were uncontroversial and like the noise ordinances that already exist. I pointed out that the noise ord...
So, if not physical harm, and not mental harm, then on the basis of what exactly would you have legislation against certain disturbing noises as you s...
No. The line of argument I'm following is that if you would accept laws preventing the emotional harm caused by loud noises that aren't related to the...
Yes, and the intensity of the sensory stimuli is not sufficient to cause physical harm. It is sufficient only to severely annoy, disturb, or otherwise...
So where, in that code, is it limiting what it will restrict to those which have a physical effect. I'm seeing a lot of restrictions on noises during ...
Is this the TS special treatment again? If I'm wrong, show me the evidence. I was subjected to your ridicule for not wanting to link evidence to suppo...
My responses to your 'noise legislation' posts have never once referred to what you would do, so my reading ability has nothing to do with it. My post...
We're still waiting for the objective measures though. What's objective about the disturbance people feel from the types of noise prohibited by the no...
So where, in this society, does someone fit who is too sensitive to minor speech restrictions, who overreacts to a really minor infringement on their ...
Please see my response to Coben above to save me rewriting the same response. I'm getting lazy writing out the full description of what I take conciou...
Ha. I suggest you move in next door to Terrapin. You play the drums constantly and he can shout racist and homophobic obscenities at you. We'll see wh...
I can understand the desire to shift approach, but it becomes, for me, an uncomfortably one-sided conversation that way. If we are in a realm of joint...
Well, it's me who should apologise if I haven't explained my terms clearly enough. Unfortunately 'logging' to memory is not a simple process to explai...
This doesn't make sense. If it is a facet of the human brain then we can get 'outside' of it by observing other humans. We can see judgements being ma...
Often a problem with this format. Terms are disputed so I try to replace them with definitions using less disputed terms, but those definitions are lo...
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