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Your dog probably forms stories to integrate dissonant information too. The frog maybe not so much, but then the frog probably doesn't have much by wa...
November 01, 2020 at 08:08
In a broad sense, yes, the term Bayesian Inference, Bayesian Brain, Active inference... all pretty much interchangeable and broadly refer to the same ...
November 01, 2020 at 07:48
I can see your point here. I was going to add to my explication of socially defined knowledge that individuals generally don't have a distinction betw...
November 01, 2020 at 07:38
Oh! The benzodiazepine. My mind went straight to versed as in 'well-versed' and got stuck there. Yes, but the effect of benzodiazepines is not on the ...
October 31, 2020 at 19:33
? - Typo, possibly. Well, at least I'd be right then! Any explanation has an element of tautology, no? 'Tides' are the action of the Moon's gravity on...
October 31, 2020 at 18:40
I don't see how my ability to judge whether or not I'm conscious has anything to do with either the neurological basis of consciousness you originally...
October 31, 2020 at 18:31
I don't see how. Are you suggesting that logging to working memory is not a 'mental activity'? Yes. That's right. You have read my explaination of wha...
October 31, 2020 at 17:44
In what field other than the whole consciousness/qualia field is this... ...considered an argument? There's something I find so odd about all this. Th...
October 31, 2020 at 17:41
Sorry everyone. 'Reporting' means logging to working memory. I should have made that clear. On second thoughts, though, less sorry because I don't thi...
October 31, 2020 at 17:32
I said 'reports of mental activity', not 'reports of consciousness'. No, it doesn't seem so. Look at the memory studies of dream states, there seems t...
October 31, 2020 at 17:26
I'm passing familiar, but only in that it's been brought up as being compatible with a Bayesian inference model (which is my preferred model). If you ...
October 31, 2020 at 17:18
This is very close to the way I think about knowledge (even 'truth', much to @"banno"'s chagrin). As a signifying word which tells us we're playing a ...
October 31, 2020 at 17:12
This all makes sense as far as identifying a process (and a worthy one at that) is concerned, but there's still this odd ontological leap, like there ...
October 31, 2020 at 16:44
Ah, then I've gotten confused. You said earlier that It's this that's caused the confusion. How can it be that people are "uninterested in checking yo...
October 31, 2020 at 09:07
@"Kenosha Kid". It looks like @"fdrake" has already said what I just answered to you - I should really read the whole thread before replying. Yes, an ...
October 31, 2020 at 09:04
Yes, that's very much the way I see it. 'The way the apple tasted to me' is simply not something that one has access to at the same level of conscious...
October 31, 2020 at 08:44
You're mixing up two different things and I'm getting confused. There's this issue of an 'unexamined' belief as in Then there's this issue of a belief...
October 31, 2020 at 08:30
You said "Reporting on mental activity isn't even a necessary condition for consciousness, let alone a sufficient one.". To make such a claim requires...
October 31, 2020 at 08:14
Most of the time it seems to be planning. We can recognise planning quite well as systems specific to imagining a scenario seem to be associated with ...
October 31, 2020 at 08:08
In your thought experiment, maybe not, but what I'm saying is that such a situation is neurologically impossible. No matter how much you insist you di...
October 30, 2020 at 08:09
What measure of consciousness are you using then?
October 30, 2020 at 08:07
I think this conversation is on the wrong thread, but briefly - there's a substantial difference between "something objective and operational about co...
October 30, 2020 at 08:06
Self-identity is a whole other massive topic, although it's related here, but like saying "I wonder what's in that wardrobe, Edmund". Broadly the idea...
October 30, 2020 at 08:02
Yep, that's about it. I see what you're getting at, and generally, yes, but I'm going to be careful unless I get called out on it later - we need to t...
October 30, 2020 at 07:19
Indeed. So we have a choice. Discard all neurological evidence and pretend things are the way the seem at first blush to be...or...dive in with curios...
October 29, 2020 at 13:25
I agree here insofar as you're saying that 'whatever we say of the realised car we can say of the unrealised grey blob', but that wasn't my intended t...
October 29, 2020 at 13:15
Not sure of the extent to which my reply here helps, but when you've had a chance to have a read of that... It's really difficult to stick completely ...
October 29, 2020 at 10:40
Indeed. I hadn't noticed until you quoted it, but I think there is a tension there which I'd certainly not side with Dennet on, if that's what he's im...
October 29, 2020 at 10:36
I should then perhaps clarify my expertise is actually in belief, decision-making, uncertainty etc, this stuff about perception is something of a side...
October 29, 2020 at 10:23
The question was how do you imagine that these beliefs formed. A belief, neurologically, is a very complex set of neural connections which lead to a t...
October 29, 2020 at 09:42
Consciousness is just the tendency to be able to report on mental activity and it's caused by the neurons which produce language, movement and other a...
October 29, 2020 at 09:39
Exactly. This is what I was trying to get at in my reply to @"Kenosha Kid" earlier from a neurological perspective. 'Sweetness' to the extent we can e...
October 28, 2020 at 18:48
The problem being that you're incredulous? My incredulity is that you find it at all difficult to believe that 80 billion neurons firing at a rate of ...
October 28, 2020 at 17:50
Can you really think of a scenario where you'd have zero justification though? How would such a belief even get formed neurologically? Wouldn't it mak...
October 28, 2020 at 17:19
...which I just noticed. Yes, I think that's true. Intuition pump 1 never really seemed like an intuition pump at all, as Dennet uses them, but more a...
October 28, 2020 at 17:08
My understanding is that they are, for Dennet, simply the facts of the experience as we would relate it in, say, a story or a report. No different to ...
October 28, 2020 at 16:52
OK, so in brief (with apologies if any of this is stuff you already know, or misses the point, I just want to be sure we're in the same frame) Conside...
October 28, 2020 at 16:50
Dennet says absolutely no such thing.
October 28, 2020 at 07:57
Then how do we know many have travelled to it? That we have absolutely no information on which to base speculation - "I think it's made entirely of pi...
October 28, 2020 at 07:53
In addition to simply being properties of conscious experience. He says I'm taking that to be equivalent to 'additional'? Yes. (Except, of course, I t...
October 28, 2020 at 07:22
True story (the flag and the bus).
October 28, 2020 at 06:49
When we take in sensory inputs it sets off a large set of reactions in the brain, like a cascade. Most of those reactions are immediate feedback loops...
October 28, 2020 at 06:44
Okaaay...Can't make head nor tail of that, but I suppose you don't have to be a Martian to wear lederhosen.
October 27, 2020 at 17:36
I think Dennet's 6th intuition pump touches on this. It's my favourite pump, and often overlooked for it's implications. You could not tell the differ...
October 27, 2020 at 17:33
OK...might be getting somewhere, but still an awful lot of dots to join up... Our mental (and physical) response to eating pumpkin is complex and vari...
October 27, 2020 at 14:05
Just curious how you see it possible for this to ever happen if... How could proof from empirical brain science say anything about intuition if it can...
October 27, 2020 at 13:45
I'm not even sure that sentence makes sense, but if it does, I'm afraid I have no idea what you're asking me. The closest I could get to what might be...
October 27, 2020 at 13:36
I didn't suggest it wasn't tautologous. What is missing, was the question. What fact are you expecting Dennet to be able to communicate?
October 27, 2020 at 13:31
The wine tasted like wine and the supper tasted like fish and chips. What's missing that can't be put into words?
October 27, 2020 at 10:51