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No one forces you to be born either. It's the involuntary action of oxytocin on the mother's physiology. At those odds yes. You'd previously admitted ...
December 14, 2020 at 20:03
No one breathes voluntarily either. Is that a problem you feel we need to address? Basic risk assessment. The experience would have to be really good....
December 14, 2020 at 19:16
You said So your own answer to that question would be "no - it's not that simple because the central issue is consent, not consequences"?
December 14, 2020 at 18:42
What kind of answer is that? You said an individual was being forced into something. Now you're saying you don't even know where they are? Then an ass...
December 14, 2020 at 18:40
Because we live in a community of generally like-minded people who rely intrinsically on each other for our mutual survival. So... 1) we do not functi...
December 14, 2020 at 18:37
Where is this individual who's being forced? You're all over the place. This whole argument arose from you claiming that issues over consent were unne...
December 14, 2020 at 18:14
Why? Since inaction can have no less of a consequence in a dynamic environment, I don't see why you'd favour it over action in the face of uncertainty...
December 14, 2020 at 17:45
I see we've devolved into irrelevancies. I'll leave you to it since my part in the conversation is having no effect whatsoever on your jeremiad you ma...
December 14, 2020 at 17:40
Taking into account what will logically come about as a consequence of one's actions is insufficient to carry your case though. Doing that alone one c...
December 14, 2020 at 17:34
But you used it in a line of argument. If you believe it has no normative value, then I'm afraid I'm at a loss to understand what point you were tryin...
December 14, 2020 at 17:29
For me that depends on an odd sort of private language (maybe not 'private', but oddly technical). To claim that one's process is addressing 'moral' d...
December 14, 2020 at 17:13
What I'm referring to is when you say... ...you imply there's a moral duty beyond that which any community merely 'think' is a moral duty. Again, basi...
December 14, 2020 at 08:33
Right. But it's the technological and medical aspects that I've provided professional cited sources taking issue with. The political argument is wheth...
December 14, 2020 at 08:09
I haven't disagreed that experience can never be fully described by reporting. In fact I've said exactly that, so I'm unsure as to what point you thin...
December 14, 2020 at 08:06
Well, not 'absolutely nothing', no. It is a political opinion based on solid cited evidence. Are all political opinions that you don't agree with to b...
December 14, 2020 at 07:54
Not necessarily. It could be a single process at a given time (though I do think dual process theory has it's place). It's only that there's no single...
December 14, 2020 at 07:52
Yep. But what we're talking about here is your memories of the experiences which preceded knowledge, not the actual experiences themselves. You no lon...
December 13, 2020 at 13:33
There have been, but that's not the point. I said that there either needs to be such arguments, or there needs to be an acceptance of the relativistic...
December 13, 2020 at 13:30
The thread is about antinatalism, which makes a moral claim. So we're talking about morality in some form. Since no moral claims are constant (shared ...
December 13, 2020 at 10:58
None of that has anything to do with what has primacy in a philosophical investigation of mind. All of those factors apply equally to a purely phenome...
December 13, 2020 at 10:53
It is when we're talking about morality in general. There, assumptions about the general case are entirely appropriate. But this is all getting very m...
December 13, 2020 at 10:36
But those doing the reprimanding would consider it your moral duty to participate (gang loyalty, or whatever). Not that I'm saying all social censure ...
December 13, 2020 at 10:21
Is it? Not what's in your guts, or your heart. Both of which were once thought to be the seat of various conscious phenomenal experience? To even say ...
December 13, 2020 at 10:18
I meant to ask where you're getting the assumption that they're not interchangeable. Right. Well that's the source if a lot of confusion. I don't thin...
December 13, 2020 at 10:09
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/dec/13/chicago-mercy-hospital-closure-covid-19 But fuck, I don't think Pfizer have quite enough money yet. Pe...
December 13, 2020 at 09:47
I thought it quite clear that 'moral nihilism' was being referred to, not universal nihilism. But maybe that was not as clear as it seemed to me.
December 13, 2020 at 09:46
Where are you getting this stuff from?
December 13, 2020 at 09:44
You are arguing that moral obligations to, say, give to charity, are unnecessary. Part of that argument relies on the fact that society would not stop...
December 13, 2020 at 09:00
As I said, I assumed you'd prefer a world in which there were kind people. If I'm wrong about that, and you just simply don't care whether we're kind ...
December 13, 2020 at 08:53
No, you've misunderstood what @"Metaphysician Undercover" is saying. He's saying that you lack the confidence to arrive at the the same judgements he'...
December 13, 2020 at 08:52
And you presume that logical justification is the only possible means of making any difference why...?
December 13, 2020 at 08:49
Yes, well... I don't really do any fMRI interpretation, questionnaire asking or behaviour reporting any more either, but rather spend a considerable a...
December 13, 2020 at 08:39
All those quotes imply that you would act kindly toward the victim, and that there is therefore no need for censure in order to reach that point. I'm ...
December 13, 2020 at 08:25
December 13, 2020 at 08:17
Calling it an argument doesn't make it into one. Where is the 'Argument Against Paternalism'? All we've read so far is the 'Assertion Against Paternal...
December 13, 2020 at 08:06
Agreeing with several parts of different theories may not have a label but it's basically as close to scientifically accurate as you can get. Several ...
December 13, 2020 at 08:03
There are indeed such neural structures and they have an enormous impact on the way we interpret what's 'out there', but...those neural structures are...
December 13, 2020 at 07:54
Ah yes, I cited that most famous of conspiracy theory publishers, the British Medical Journal. Not to mention that hotbed of zealotry that is The Lanc...
December 13, 2020 at 07:37
We could say exactly the same about your obsessive liberalism... Somehow this is seen as "justified" by the neo-liberal types that think people should...
December 12, 2020 at 17:49
You'd both have some evidence to back up these claims I presume? How are we determining that the only corners cut were in early production? How are we...
December 12, 2020 at 17:39
It's just a colloquial term. We could talk about Quality Adjusted Life Years if we wanted to be more accurate, but generally a 'life saved' in this co...
December 12, 2020 at 17:26
It may well be 95% effective at what it's been tested for, but that's the generation of a sufficient immune response to limit subsequent infection in ...
December 12, 2020 at 17:19
You've just dodged the question. The question was "why does it matter whether it's self-imposed?", which goes to the heart of the issue. Why is autono...
December 12, 2020 at 17:07
There are not laws enforcing all moral duties. Notwithstanding which, the existence of a law does not make it that one 'has to' do something. One coul...
December 12, 2020 at 16:59
No, our ancestors evolved to respond to wavelengths of light, prior to language. Had they not then they would not all have picked the ripe berries (wh...
December 12, 2020 at 16:45
Having noses? Your point is?
December 12, 2020 at 14:06
Yes it does, that's the point. Naming colour names is part of a response to stimuli modelled at a cultural level. You do not 'experience' redness. But...
December 12, 2020 at 13:49
No, that's not Moore's argument at all. It had nothing to do with experience and everything to do with the alternative the skeptic had to offer in pla...
December 12, 2020 at 13:36
But being obligated to has no practical consequences, and you said it was a 'practical difference'.
December 12, 2020 at 13:33
Possibly you're right there. Do you even read what I write?
December 12, 2020 at 13:29