I just presumed that you'd have no reason to disbelieve me. I can cite a dozen trial results, but if you've already decided that I'm making stuff up I...
Not sure what you're trying to say here. To be clear, my position is that morality is not imposed from some divine (or otherwise non-physical) externa...
No it wouldn't. Maybe to a moral absolutist it would, but I thought you and I were past that. Anyone not absolutist about morals, these ideas have arr...
Agreed. No, just within the ballpark. I don't see them as two examples of the same thing. One's an attempt to summarise the purpose of the rules, the ...
Yeah, I think that's right. So what kind of evidence would one bring to bear if one were to make an argument about the parameters? Say if we were talk...
You're missing the point. 'Moral' is a word in our shared language. It has to have a public meaning in order to be able to carry out this function. It...
Not 'wrong', just not moral. 'Moral' has a meaning, and wiping out the human race isn't it. If your axiom happened to be 'kill everyone who annoys me'...
As I said, my knowledge of this only comes from articles in the BMJ mostly (it's been fairly Covid-dominated lately, obviously), but basically the ide...
Finally. This time it only took you sixteen pages to admit the same point we get to every time... "I have some weird axioms, look what weird consequen...
That's mainly what I was trying to address in my later comments, but perhaps I didn't relate them clearly enough. It comes down, I think, to the natur...
It was the refusing to apply it bit I was confused about. Not sure what I've said outside of a principle of weighing harms, benefits and duties. I'm n...
Yeah. It all depends on the progress they've supposedly made. Here's Stat on mRNA approaches just a few years ago Moderna actually pinned almost its e...
Not quite sure how to take this. Are you implying that moral behaviour has no objective. It's just series of arbitrary rules we follow just because......
'Arguments' and 'responses' are not smug. People are. It's an ad hominen which just goes the heart of the issue. You're pissed off about your life and...
Where did I say anything even remotely like that? Didn't mention that either Nor that I have literally no idea what you're replying to but it doesn't ...
That's not really an answer to the question. You've made a clear distinction between desires and moral behaviour so moral behaviour can't simply be on...
Notifications on this site are a bit peculiar. Nothing. I worded it all wrong. I meant to say that we could take that into account when weighing their...
No. It had no notification attached to it, quite deliberately. Right. So it doesn't work as a counter-argument then does it. If there are situations i...
I don't understand this position. If you're of the view that people should be left to do as they please (even if that causes problems for other people...
It's not rocket science, it just takes the tiniest bit of theory of mind (something most three years olds can muster), but I'll teach you it here and ...
The analogy wasn't necessarily aimed at you. For fuck's sake, it was an analogy and hopefully you knew perfectly well it was an analogy when you wrote...
You can't inflict human embodiment on a person. If the thing you're imagining is not already embodied, it's not a person. Agreed. How do you determine...
So? Because life is good, the striving is fun sometimes, there are a lot of great things to enjoy in life. Most people seem to agree, even in today's ...
Odd, because when talking about the suffering intrinsic to life you reach for rather a familiar list - disease, work, war, poverty, disability... You ...
That doesn't follow at all. Not having access to their judgement is not the same as having no idea what it might be. We can have a very good idea what...
Why is it everyone couches disagreement as the other side not 'understanding'? Have you considered the possibility that it's you who don't understand ...
Stanford has quite a good article on the philosophical use of 'harm' if you want to read up about it. So what would you call some negative outcome of ...
I've changed the details here, but I had a client once who could not read books because he'd convinced himself that tiny invisible people were living ...
Then we have no basis on which to make any decisions at all, since all lack millions upon millions of theoretical data points which are impossible to ...
Conservatism does not restrict itself to individual harms. As I said, if you want to use a term in a particularly unusual manner you'll need to explai...
That is not the information I'm referring to. I really don't want to have to walk you through what has already been written. Just read it again more c...
If your moral framework includes a feature which you cannot even predict changes in, it would seem little better than just throwing your hands up and ...
No. It's not that there's no way of knowing. It's not a data point which exists but is not 'knowable'. The data point doesn't even exist. To ask if on...
The future someone. The children who will exist. But we are not forcing anything on these children. They exist already (in our possible world we're in...
Well don't you think that looking into it might be relevant, if you're going to make claims about it? Correct. That's not the claim. The claim is mere...
Yeah. This is perhaps more difficult to see in "the snow is white" than in "the pub is at the end of the road". If I walk to the end of the road when ...
You've just answered your own question. The justification is... being able to foresee the consequences (life is really good - love, sunsets, adventure...
The elderly, the immunocompromised, the chronically ill, ethnic minorities, very young children... Yes. The testing methodology is publicly available ...
Well, a) I'm not sure how what seems to you to be the case has any bearing on what actually is the case in the light of a disagreement, and b) if you'...
Really? I'm not sure I can help you if your comprehension is genuinely that bad, but I'll have go. First of all that sentence says that subjectivity i...
The community. You and them. It's telling of this neo-liberal infection that you don't even consider that possibility. Why would they be relevant to t...
So how is it that you imagine we do learn how to be moral? Definitional disagreements are common too, so I don't see the presence of disagreements as ...
We can both play that game. For my part... I suggest "Towards a Broader View of Hunter-Gatherer Sharing" Edited by Noa Lavi & David E. Friesem. I've f...
I think that would depend on the person doing the pushing - presuming we're in a situation where consent cannot, under any circumstances, be obtained....
Comments