Isaac

Most people are not grade 8 pianists either, but one could almost guarantee one's children would be if one were to train them from birth. That most pe...

Yeah. And your political opponents wouldn't say exactly the same about their positions?

Why? Why not? So why the whole song and dance about deserved pleasure, it's completely irrelevant to your case, which, it turns out, is just standard ...

They sure sound like a list of strong opinions. Are you prepared to actually give the alternatives to all those positions a 'fair shake'? Let's try th...

How do people who don't have strong opinions one way or the other take any action at all? These people sound positively dangerous to me, in a dynamic ...

And you're not willing to give any other views a fair shake?

This seems exceedingly odd. If you're at a concert, the most objective way of determining the pitch of a note is not to use a spectrum analyser, but t...

So if I found myself in a group of Rolling Stones fans, a more 'objective' view of whether Mick Jagger hit the right note would be obtained, not by an...

So how are you judging it to be 'the best' explanation?

True. But since that's not what "being objective" typically means, I'm not sure I see the relevance.

It's not a matter of math and logic. God! I wish people would give up with this messianic delusion that they can sit in their fucking armchairs and wo...

You introduced necessity, I'm only asking you about it So you seem now to be saying that a philosopher is not, after all supposed to give all ideas a ...

Really? That's what you're correcting? Not the manifestly false claim that healthy people remove viruses from the environment faster than socially dis...

No doubt such people exist, but that wasn't my question. My question was "why must lack of objectivity preclude commonality?", not "why may it do so i...

Some ideas must surely be ideas we've already heard, no? When we re-hear those ideas, must 'philosophers' give them due consideration on each occasion...

Why would a lack of objectivity preclude commonality. There's no objective 'best film' but that doesn't prevent people from collectively promoting the...

Yep, probably. But not all ideas are in this category, surely?

Indeed it is. What has that got to do with an OP about how to interpret the disagreement of others? Yep. A good point. One which I'm not sure anyone h...

Nah. If this were an isolated comment maybe, but as it is it comes off the back of (and even refers to) a long and persistent effort on your part to p...

Right. So a population of well-behaved people are perfectly likely to deserve all the pleasure they get (and more) and thus there is no 'badness' in g...

Yes, that's basically it. If you see madness as ...then you get an increase in murder and suicide. If, however, you see some mental health diagnoses a...

It wasn't covered at all. So the former then. You really don't think there's even so much as an active debate among scientists about the positions you...

This is such a fascinating approach. Are you at all aware of alternative (equally scientific) positions to the ones you espouse, or do you genuinely l...

Yeah right. Because the 34 murders, including 8 children and 266+ of suicides in just one year* directly linked with schizophrenia, even with a strong...

I don't understand how this could possibly work as an assessment of a disagreement about an idea you currently think is right. How could it possibly b...

I wasn't really referring to 'new' ideas. Very few ideas are new. The vast majority have been expressed before. So what about those? OK to categorise ...

This is absolutely and demonstrably true, so I don't see how you think it supports you view. If we locked up all the healthy people and left the other...

Permanently? Are they never allowed to reach conclusions about said ideas?

It's worse than that even. Since there's no objective set of rules as to what words in a language 'really' mean, nor boundaries where one language end...

The question is not what might, later, turn out to be the case, but what I now consider the case to be. That I might later be wrong is trivially true ...

Then how do you know it's better than wind? They did invent the refrigerator.

Oh, and the other thing that would be interesting to hear is why, if it's cheaper, lower risk and lower environmental consequence, yet produces free e...

I don't see any costs in there, nor replacement schedules, nor risk assessments.

Brilliant. A little 'broad brush' maybe, but you've given us some actual figures to back up your argument from the real world. Good move. Right then, ...

That's totally unfair. You've not been 'talked over'. No-one's cut you off mid proposition and @"khaled" has dissected your posts practically sentence...

This then would make it sound like the amount of undeserved please (the pleasure not accounted for by undeserved suffering) is dependent on a person's...

So, yes then. You were at capacity. It doesn't matter if it's staff, space, equipment, or specialists. The details are not the point. The working to c...

No, they hated Trump because they couldn't trust him to sit the right way round on a toilet, let alone run a country. So you think ordinary people can...

Wouldn't that fall into the category of ? Seems to be right there in the OP.

Yeah, but the advice is obviously regarding the categories as they are perceived at the time, not as they might be perceived at some time in the futur...

Really. You work in healthcare, right? Are you seriously suggesting that neither you no any of your colleagues had the faintest idea the ICUs were wor...

If you thought you were wrong, then why would you persist in that idea? If you thought you might be wrong (and they might be right) then their idea wo...

If you thought they were right they wouldn't be in the category of people with whom you disagree would they?

I think you've misunderstood what @"Pfhorrest" is talking about. He's suggesting a way of approaching people who disagree with you using categories re...

So. That empiricism is a philosophical position doesn't affect what things are empirical, it only affects the extent to which you believe that those t...

...is not a philosophical investigation, it's an empirical one. Social membership is an empirical property and the effect it has is an empirical obser...

It's not an unfamiliar phenomenon unfortunately. I don't know anyone personally, but have been made aware of people who used to be within my social gr...

Why on earth would you centre such an analysis on a book that's 70 years out of date. Do you really have such a poor opinion of modern sociology that ...

I see. I didn't get that from my first reading, but it makes more sense now. I think distinguishing the forth from the fifth group will be difficult, ...

Do you have any evidence if this? The problem is that, as you point out, people in the last group think they're in the first, and treating an idea as ...