They're inferred by models in the primary somatosensory cortex. They're inferred from signals sent by from the thalamus (via nociceptor endings and tr...
One of the biggest misunderstanding here I think is generated by this equivocation about what constitutes 'similar'. In order to justify that you do, ...
No. The neuroscientist is not correlating with experiences he has. He's correlating with the spoken words the subject is reporting, on the assumption ...
No we can't. That's the point. If what you say here is true you'd have to concede that there are people who appear to be in pain whom we could never, ...
His is that an 'issue'. I don't see how it has any bearing on either behaviourism (which can take subsequent behaviour into account), or on privacy (w...
Look, you said to Luke... Which, aside from striling me as being a bit silly (as if behaviourists hadn't thought of that), set up this ludicrous notio...
a) you've asked as question and then assumed your answer to it in the very same sentence - doesn't bode well for an open-minded discussion. b) This on...
Yeah, I can agree on practical privacy, but (I'm going to take what might have been an agreement and ruin it here) I think they're just as private to ...
It's not new territory. There's nothing new here at all, it's exactly the same complaint you make every single time you post here. The counter argumen...
Other people's sensation are behaviour if you include (as you did), neural activity in 'behaviour'. Sensations are the modelling of signals sent from ...
Sorry about that. I'll try again. Let's say the content of a cup is a property of the cup. So cup A contains milk, cup B contains water. There's a rea...
You define content as if it were a single property, yet later talk about different content. In order for two 'contents' to differ, they must themselve...
You've not explained how content differs from structure - you keep introducing those terms without argument as if they were self-evident. The article ...
one of the inadmissible theories of evolution is called ‘appendecto-genesis’. This is the idea that evolution develops towards particular ends - such ...
It's not about evidence, it's definitional. If any of it's properties are derived from something other than that stream it's no longer the epiphenomen...
I don't understand. It's like you're saying we can't access something in more than one way. I access my sensations by other neural circuits connected ...
But you said "science cannot completely show us the conscious experiences of other people". You didn't say 'give us'. The two are different. That's no...
You've heard that definition of madness, yes? Yes. Or at least there's one that limits it. The 'of red' bit. In order for it to be an experience of re...
It's how we're identifying what the epiphenomenon is of. Otherwise, how are you claiming that the aspect of your whole epiphenomenological experience ...
It's really complicated, so this is a massive oversimplification but... When the 600nm wavelength strikes the cone cell it sets off a series of neural...
I'm following your line of thinking. It's other people's beliefs that interest me so I like to follow them. You said that our epiphenomenological expe...
Yes, that's true, actually - the progress (where it's being made) seems to be confined to adults at the moment. I don't think we're going to see a ret...
OK, you stub your toe... Also, at the same time, the room is quite bright, your heart is beating faster, your arm is stiff from hammering yesterday, y...
I think you've answered your own question there. The anti psychiatry movement had a point, and one which I don't think has really been taken up as muc...
You have a whole range of constantly varying feelings at any given time. How did you know which ones were associated with the public concept 'pain' an...
Yep. Agreed. Yep. So the content of that experience (the one just caused by your cone cells responding to 600nm wavelengths) can't have anything whats...
Well, as I said, I don't want to open that can of worms again, but I think it's obvious from the length of that conversation last time that it's not a...
Yes, by a very large margin prevention is definitely better than the cure. Can it? Is this just a suspicion of your, or do you have any evidence to su...
I don't do clinical psychology, but in what limited experience I have it's certainly something I've encountered more than once, so unless that's a coi...
How would that work, if your feelings are private? Then how do you know those non-identical aspects have anything to do with the public concept 'pain'...
You are. I'm not. I'm asking you why you think it's unmeasurable in principle. Specifically I'm asking you in what way a verbal report that you feel i...
OK. Yep, and I'm asking why you think it's not objectively measurable. All you've said so far is that any such measurement is prone to error, but that...
That's not the conclusion of the study cited. Even a cursory read shows that. The very first sentence is "People living in countries that have experie...
I'm not sure how any of that answers my question, but... The SEP has a better answer than any I could give (I've no qualifications in Philosophy). But...
Visual behavioural similarities. Right. Well, the same question to that then. How do you know which of your thousands of responses/feelings are the on...
Of course it can. We've never, ever encountered any macro-scale physical event which is without physical cause despite many thousands of years searchi...
No, they share the experience of me thinking 'red' is the right word to use to describe the colour. How could I possibly guess it's colour if I didn't...
Yes. Indeed. I'm not disputing that different wavelengths can have different causal effects within the brain. Quite the opposite, in fact. An organism...
That's just describing the two positions. You said that something was missing from the materialist account that was not directly observable. I was ask...
Yes, fair enough, I didn't think that's what you meant. No. Not by any means other than the public language. I have experiences when I injure myself, ...
See https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/epdf/10.1002/%28SICI%291097-0193%281998%296%3A4%3C270%3A%3AAID-HBM6%3E3.0.CO%3B2-0 I'm talking from a neurolog...
Inability to predict is not lack of determinism. It's lack of sufficient modelling accuracy. Lack of determinism would need to propose a randomising m...
Not that I can distinguish, no. The experience of seeing a red postbox seems very distinct from the one of seeing a red letter 'A', but no distinguish...
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