True, yes, but also products of it, no? It's not clear what role you think philosophers et al might have here. I can only think of two, each with thei...
So what gives in the cade of inconsistency here, the premise or the conclusion? One of the two has to be wrong, but it's not given which. Either the m...
I don't think so no. You want to reduce suffering down to zero, killing everyone will do that because there's no on left to suffer. I'm just not sure ...
Really? It's not something I've ever encountered. I've sat on an ethics committee for a short while, permitting just about anything didn't come up, an...
How so? I have no more influence over the way diagnosing psychologists do their work than you do. It's like saying that engineers are at least partly ...
I'm sounding like a stuck record, but... why? If a firm has gone to the trouble of consulting an ethicist what difference is it going to make to the o...
Yes, that's right. The explanation I just wrote is like 'woo'. It's actually magic given only to humans by the great god Vishnu via the medium of danc...
Ah. I personally wouldn't go as far as to say science can't tell you you're deeply wrong. I think there are places it can do that. If you were to sugg...
A model is just relation between the data from sensory receptors and the behaviour appropriate to it to reduce the uncertainty involved in any interac...
Yes, that's not far off what I was saying. Firstly, why is it not reasonable? Many people think the extinction of the human race is a big deal, and th...
Exactly. Basically the point I've been making here. Whether morals actually are objective, absolute, subjective, or relative matters not one jot when ...
The definition I'm using of eliminative materialism is the SEP one... So models arise in the same way as they might in most approaches to cognition. T...
Well laws have both social and penal consequences for disobeying, yes? This is the point I'm trying to steer toward. If an objective morality had any ...
Might be different in America, but here we have plenty of housing. Entire blocks of flats lie empty in London because it's more financially viable for...
Indeed. This will probably be another such, but I'll come back on a few of the points you've raised. After all, that the point of this place. I think ...
As I was arguing in one of the other threads about psychology (I can't remember if it was the "All psychologists are Nazis", or the "Psychology killed...
Sometimes. I think there are also cases where the narrative these people use is "Morals don't apply to me" or "morality is nonsense" etc. There are al...
Again. How? We find a book clearly written by God called "All the Morals" and in it is a passage which say "FGM is immoral". People who want to do FGM...
Well, the long answer is the subject of entire research projects. The short answer - several different factors; empathy, disgust, in-group reinforceme...
Then why would it matter if morality was objective or not? Objectively wrong, or subjectively wrong, they don't care either way. Neither force people ...
Interesting background, thanks. As you may know, I'm a research psychologist. Although I'm retired now, I spent the vast majority of my career on beli...
No one's disputing that. Mainly I'm intrigued by your thought processes, but I do think it's a little impolite of you to post your condemnations of wh...
Why would you want to shift my attitude? Are you recruiting? Notwithstanding, I've a couple of questions about this approach of yours... Why 'attitude...
Yeah, frustrating as hell. I can't get my head around why someone would come on to a public forum and then not do the one thing the forum is designed ...
Yep. Which it then had the decency to admit to, investigate and form models based on. What happened when Plato, Buddha, Mohammed,...etc went in search...
Ah yes, I forgot your aversion to talking with anyone who disagrees with you. My apologies. No doubt I just don't understand the issue. In fact, have ...
To the extent that I'm aware of it, yes. I was in broad agreement with his article 'Quining Qualia' for example. I think it made some very good points...
Nice idea. ...which would then devolve into a carbon copy of every single thread we already have since no two ideas are so identical that no such argu...
It's just that you said... ...Why would you need price controls? Supply would just go up do meet demand and so bring prices back down. Or it wouldn't ...
As usual you've grabbed a barely connected sentence out of context just to use a a springboard for some general whinging. Not even worth a reply reall...
Did you even read what I wrote? I don't have anything whatsoever to do with the diagnosis of mental disorders. Nothing. Or maybe it's because you're f...
You clearly said that the scientific method as incapable of accommodating the subjective. The method, not the philosophy sometimes associated with it....
Why would that be relevant, given that... ...? But even with regards to... ...Was it not this very enterprise that was responsible for said discoverie...
I assumed that, I was just wondering what your numbers are. Key ones being - % of the population who'd rather they hadn't been born, quantification of...
What makes you think that? You'd need numbers on the amount of suffering, the longevity of the human race, the extent to which antinatalism will be su...
But you said that no individual should suffer for the good of the masses. So why should those people who will suffer during the course of this 'eventu...
Then how come The whole of the modern scientific method doesn't sound very 'dead' to me. Also, if... ...and you... ...then how are you still claiming ...
This is a non sequitur. You're confusing the rule with the data used to carry it out. Let's say a society has a simple rule. "Do not paint your house ...
How so? Lets say scientists propose a model of phenomena X, they find, by experimental removal of subjective variables, a model of X which successfull...
What's this got to do with natalism? It's very rare that a person has an entirely 'bad' life, and it's certainly not in any way necessary for the well...
I don't follow you. You say... ...and also... ...Which is it? When the demand goes up (the 'bidding up' of rents has to be demand led, yes?) you don't...
Turns out according to https://www.businessinsider.com/how-rich-is-jeff-bezos-mind-blowing-facts-net-worth-2019-4?r=US&IR=T it's more like a few milli...
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