Okay. It seems you are more or less Piecemeal then rather than having any explicit idea of what utopia would look like let alone laying out any partic...
@"Vera Mont" I think I may have found something that will help distinguish between what we were arguing about better here: Karl Popper uses the terms ...
I think it might be useful to consider 'real' and 'BS' labour on a scale of the division of labour itself. With increased specialisation we see the on...
Learning is also a kind of 'suffering' too. The impossibility of clarity for the term 'suffering' makes AN a particular kind of subjective view. Like ...
@"Bob Ross" I am curious what your response is to what I said regarding 'self-defense'? If one uses 'force' to merely incapacitate temporarily without...
Well, right back at you. This is my point. If you are stating that you can only speak to people who understand and that anyone who does not is a waste...
From your perspectives maybe. Have you considered that what you see as 'trolling' others see as valid points that are not addressed by the argumentati...
I did. The guy in the video is holding two contrary views and had this pointed out to him (he probably won't listen though because I have heard some o...
It really doesn't warrant anything like that. I dedicated sub forum for Kant or various other philosophers/philosophical ideas would make more sense. ...
Agreed. I think in reality humanity is always going to overstep to some degree. It is necessary to make mistakes in order to learn from them. Judging ...
If there is anyone you have listen too who has not said something you disagree with then you simply have not listened enough. The same principle goes ...
I was thinking more along the lines of it just happening because it happens, not because anyone actively intended it. The kind of paradigm shift I am ...
The assumption is believing this would be a good thing and that belief in morals existing/matters is important for a utopian society. Let's assume the...
All of them and more we have not even considered or expect. Well, what are you offering in the utopian ideal? Better for whom and how? Same problem on...
You brought it up on that particular point and I have no idea why. I mentioned that to achieve utopia could involve something along those lines or som...
Killing? Conflict does not mean 'killing'. There would be disharmony of a sort. Diversity does necessarily involve conflictions. That is what differen...
What is a better way then? The problem is people believing they can solve this problem to the kind of degree you may be speaking of? I would say this ...
I hope to convince you otherwise in due time. We do seem to have a pretty similar view in many ways, but I do not feel that you appreciate the danger ...
So you define a utopian society as being one that keeps people alive rather than one that also satisfies people's wants? I do not. This in itself part...
I can generally agree with this. I think there has always been a disparity between those with knowhow and those not, but the information age has cause...
If you go down that road then everything relates to everything. Colin Renfrew is a pioneer in Cognitive Archaeology, for example. My point was that an...
Satisfying people's wants and needs is part of the utopian ideal. Utopian. The very principle of a utopian society is one that is furnishing everyone'...
It is the extreme I am against. If someone believes they have an idea that can alter society 'at large' then they are peddling some form of ideology. ...
It is primarily dedicated to objectively recording the data of sites and artifacts in meticulous detail. The conjure comes later, as with practically ...
That was an example of how everyone would be happy. the simple truth is people are different and as long as they are different utopia is impossible - ...
Pacifism is pacifism. It works sometimes. The only exception would be in acting in self-defense in a non-violent manner. Pinning someone on the ground...
The two can be mutually exclusive. Maybe this person is just trying to approach something extremely obscure. Kudos to them then. Whatever is going on ...
What question? There is no question in the OP. You threw a question at me when I asked for clarity. How about you show me how to answer it. That might...
Self-Defense can also be classed as a form of staving off harm committed to others. If one does not defend oneself then the perpetrator of the violenc...
Pseudo-intellectualism is looking like the most probably explanation of this person's writing. I mean look at this needless word salad: I am prone to ...
A pure consequentialist would disagree. There could be a rather bizarre circumstance when some generally perceived 'bad' act was essential to prevent ...
I was suggesting "optimal" not "ideal". By all means strive for betterment. It is the idea that someone believes they know what the best is that irks ...
I know, I know. Sorry for the glib comment :) I guess you could also argue that #1 is impossible and therefore irrelevant. Meaning there is no instanc...
I do not think it ever pans out like that. Incremental steps toward an impossible ideal are leaps compared to shooting for a better future. The measur...
The road to hell ... My point is they would fail and know they are failing. Imagine a world of people walking around thinking they are the saviors of ...
I warned against anyone trying to do so and am against anyone trying to do so. I am against Hitlers and Pol Pots who put plans in action for their own...
You are less likely to kill people reaching for something that is impossible and less likely to justify their deaths by claiming to be holding to some...
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