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Moral reasoning is still possible for the meta-ethical relativist (hope I've got that right). We just have to find common terminal goals (as opposed t...

I agree moral claims are about others. But they are about getting other people to do what you want them to do, not what they should do in any objectiv...

Perhaps it means that what we should do is negotiated rather than discovered. Not sure. I'm one of those... ...but not one of those. Thanks for the co...

I took schop to be talking about people with all their non-name-dependent features rather than switchable name-bearers. :) Indeed. It depends where on...

This is not to be sniffed at. Very important thing sometimes in philosophy.

This is a revelation.

...trying to make a table...

Not sure if this will help. Bit messy but it might be what schop has in mind. 1) I am bert1 (assumption) 2) I could have been unenlightened (target as...

Yeah, this is frequently misquoted. What he actually said was:

Fair enough. If you take the negative connotation out of it. In my ignorance I thought rhetoric and sophistry were more or less the same thing.

Rhetoric is an art, sure. It's not foundational to art generally, though. If I enjoy some music, am I really a victim of rhetoric?

What Pfhorrest said.

Qualified assent. Dictionaries are compiled by people who pay careful attention to use, at least one hopes. And the definitions they write deserve som...

There is no dichotomy between a definition and usage. The way of understanding a word is by understanding how to use it. And one way to understand how...

Dictionaries describe usage, no? They're useful when there is confusion over different usages, as in the various senses of 'consciousness'.

Indeed, but they are both smart and interesting. It doesn't bother me so much if a poster has little of interest to say.

Disagreeing with either Banno or Apo quickly leads to the conversation crashing. It's frustrating and annoying. It's interesting watching them interac...

@apokrisis what do you think of Banno's post?

Not sure. Extension. Stretchability. Self-movingness. Not sure. Maybe a mind is the space that a brain occupies. Nearly everything yes. But maybe fiel...

I think it's a property of space, so I'd go for 'yes', as space occupies space.

In a healthy democracy, the rule of law one hopes, which one hopes reflects the values of the populace. In any case there are many more kinds of power...

Isn't 'state power' the only thing that protects people from corporations? Power has to be somewhere. Where do you want it to be?

Thanks, that's good. Inference from behaviour is an interesting way to resist panpsychism and has some force. This line of thought leads to possible i...

Cool! I'm clearly out of date. What are the latest findings on which things are conscious?

I call it the 'dictionary' notion of consciousness.

I part company with you there Gnomon. I think everything is conscious in exactly the same way, according one sense of the word.

I won't do that! The thing Eugen and I are talking about as so obvious (albeit apparently only to us and some other people) is not a theory but the th...

I must admit I don't really know what's going on. I just can't be the case that so many people are just lying or wilfully ignorant or something. Maybe...

I believe EricH. I think the misunderstandings, differing assumptions, differing definitions and perceptions are so deep and difficult to sort out in ...

It's a redundancy. Philosophers use 'first person point of view' and 'experience' often enough, and this expression just mixes them. Depending on exac...

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=first+person+experience&t=brave&ia=web&iai=r1-2&page=1&adx=sltb&sexp=%7B%22v7exp%22%3A%22a%22%2C%22sltexp%22%3A%22b%22%2C%22...

This suggests that you might characterise materialism as the belief that the the physical world is real. I don't think this adequately distinguishes m...

That an interesting thought, but I'm unclear why this is a significant problem for materialism. There are lots of thing that we can doubt, but which w...

Every behaviour of a rock is consistent with its being conscious isn't it? The whole of the problem of other minds is predicated on the decoupling of ...

Why do you think consciousness is different from nearly all other properties such that it cannot reasonably be emergent?

That's certainly one variety of panpsychism, probably the most popular. One way to determine which systems have 'united' the consciousness of their in...

For example, a higher goal might be to 'Not feel scared'. One way for racists to stop feeling scared is to kill, or imprison, or put behind a wall, pe...

It would make sense (because panpsychism is not true or false by definition) but it would happen to be factually wrong (if panpsychism is true) or fac...

Yes, that is interesting. I'm not sure what a zombie would say (although speculating about what things would or wouldn't say in a thought experiment i...

Indeed. That is why philosophers are so exercised about the problem of other minds. Some theorise that nothing is conscious, some that some things are...

This might help, not sure: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hEUO6pjwFOo&t=311s

As a panpsychist, I think everything is conscious, including things that speak. But not as a matter of definition. I don't think anything is conscious...

Sure. But to convince a murderer or racist that their values are wrong, it is not sufficient to present the opposing value. You have to give them a re...

Speaking does not entail consciousness

Consciousness is detectable to the person that has it. And they may want to refer to this using a word.

We don't have to define consciousness' in terms of the behaviour of rocks, and I wouldn't normally do so. The definition (sense 1) is rock-neutral. We...

In a discussion of terminal goals, I think this is where we end up. But maybe we're not discussing terminal goals. Maybe there is a common goal that r...

One objection to the BLM slogan is that it isn't true for some people. For some people, black lives are not important. The orthogonality thesis of the...

Yet I maintain that panpsychism is true. Should I see a doctor?

You're just trolling again