Valentinus

I don't think of it as a matter of people necessarily having no recourse than such a response. Trolls do exist. The utility of identifying them during...

Well said. That observation returns us to the beginning of the OP and the proposal of a continuity of meaning from Plato down through the last of the ...

I accept the withdrawal of your arguments from opining what other people might think. Good night.

Do you mean by dealing with statements as given rather than avoiding challenges they might incur?

In any case, I hope that your lack of accountability to others means you will no longer be claiming who other people are or what they think.

Nor do you take responsibility for what you say.

I don't know. How about all the efforts made to bring it to your attention? Or the attempt to separate the problem from other positions you had taken?...

Wow. I am arguing for a distinction to be recognized and after pages of you dodging the problem, you now suggest that I am the one denying it because ...

The importance of the statement involves the distinction between opinion and knowledge, as demonstrated throughout the dialogues. It does not refer to...

My previous comment aside, you still have not explained why Socrates claims to be ignorant when you wish to qualify the statement as not really meanin...

You have the opportunity to explain the text as you understand it without regard to what others have said, including myself. You claim an understandin...

Is that to say that your many attempts to say what is being said can be struck from the record? You, after all, has seen themselves fit to say what is...

The matter I brought up bears no relationship to any claim of ignorance than that made by Socrates himself. I am asking you to defend your view in lig...

This is, of course, the first question to ask. My first associations with the term was how it was used as a means to distinguish a "natural theology" ...

This assumes we are outside of God. We are not in a great location to affirm or deny the possibility. See Spinoza for details.

Saying that I have an anti-Christian commitment falls well outside the bounds of reasonable discourse.

I never claimed you claimed it. Your view amounts to assuming that to be the case when you do claim Socrates knew the truth. My bringing it up as a ch...

But I was not defending myself from your claims regarding aporia. I went through many efforts to get your meaning of the word out of my mouth. The cow...

I did not call you those names. I only complained about your labels when you said this: Your inability to distinguish between your interlocutors is no...

For myself, I have made an effort to stay away from disparaging language or assigning labels. In the context of talking about the meaning of Plato's t...

That is a very good question. The Buddha in the story did not follow up: " "I am the rightfully self-enlightened one" with "while you are an ignorant ...

I agree that Socrates is hiding many things, that was what I was referring to when saying the place where he tries to persuade is different from where...

A lot of theology is invested in protecting whatever agent is proposed to have made stuff from facing charges of doing a bad job. So, if I do ask for ...

I do think Socrates works laterally in many exchanges to question a convention rather than declare something wrong outright. I am not sure of how clea...

You did not list simply disagreeing with the interpretation. Assuming that criticism is only a result of a bad reaction to a manifestly true account i...

In regards to Kierkegaard, his emphasis upon the life of the Single Individual should be seen together with his commitment to love his neighbor as com...

I have no phobia regarding religion. On the contrary. I am addressing the problem with your Socrates who pretends to be ignorant. How you rank the var...

Your fixation with this is keeping you from taking the challenges presented to you seriously. I am the one who brought up this problem of a Socrates w...

It has been amusing to spar with you over your Karate Kid version of Plato. But now that you are using it to determine who is Christian or not, it is ...

You have no idea what I believe. That you think I have revealed that because I support one reading of Plato over another is the height of authoritaria...

If you make a statement, and two people notice the contradiction between that statement and others you make, does that turn the two persons into a sin...

You once again resort to opposing what you purport others to mean rather than engage in statements as they are presented to you. The passage of the Ph...

But isn't the life of Socrates one of actively hunting for the truth by perpetually questioning things? The passage of the Phaedo you are referring to...

I wish I could attend some of those concerts. I imagine that they scared themselves.

Noted. I mistook your claim that Socrates actually knows what he claims not to know to be your thesis. An easy mistake to make, under the circumstance...

You still haven't explained what the purpose is for emphasizing how ignorant we are if Socrates actually knows the truth. I gave examples of the apori...

The topic was raised in the context of asking you to explain why Socrates put so much emphasis on the limits of knowledge when you suggested that some...

Before you ask that as a general question, what is the role of difficulty in any particular inquiry? In the Republic, Socrates expresses uncertainty i...

I answer your questions when they are directed to comments I make. I don't when they refer to arguments you are having with others. The paucity of the...

You only see my comment through the lens of your ongoing argument with Fooloso4. I am not talking about that. Your comments about ignorance relate to ...

The only one who is imagining that view is you yourself. Nobody that I know of characterizes the unfolding of the Dialectic to be antithetical to cont...

The double negative combined with the rhetorical question is confusing. Are you saying that saying an inquiry that leads to aporia amounts to atheism,...

Saying that an inquiry leads to aporia is not equivalent to stating that the purpose of it has been cancelled. So when you say that I am claiming that...

I never said anything of the kind. You are a Sophist.

You have gone back to characterizing other peoples' views in place of defending your own.

I don't get any images in my mind when I say "preach ignorance and aporia" out loud. It sounds like a kind of surrender; a reason to stop trying to do...

Well said. the notions of a common good and the pursuit of happiness do not appear or disappear if one supposes or denies divine agency.

The purpose of Plato's academy certainly was about training thinkers. It was a specifically discursive endeavor with the express goal of improving dis...

What is missing from this account of behaviorism is the context of childhood development. Skinner claimed he could produce any sort of individual thro...

I agree with your description. I would qualify it with two observations: The Gnostics saw themselves in relation to "non-believers" in ways that do no...