By my own judgement. The way the Russians left Kherson is odd, so I sought a reasonable explanation. The United States pressured Ukraine into showing ...
Likely the deal has already been struck. The United States pressured Ukraine to show willingness to negotiate a few weeks ago. Then Russia gives up Kh...
I enjoy testing my ideas. That's the only reason I am here. No, and especially not on a forum filled with strangers. I know nothing of their lives. Im...
What makes you think I care? :chin: I'm not here to convince anyone. Precisely so. Since "the human species" cannot act, intend, etc.; it is not a mor...
Oh, that's rich. Maybe you should take a look in the mirror sometime. It's irrelevant. Individuals have intentions, and individuals aren't subjected t...
What are people making of the Russian retreat from Cherson? A trap? Or did a deal go down behind the scenes? Since Cherson may have served as a spring...
I personally think the fear of nuclear war is based on the idea that Russia is losing in Ukraine. Given the fact that Russia still seems to hold the a...
I've stated that impositions - 'to force one's will upon another' - are generally regarded as immoral, following common moral principles. Procreation ...
I never stated that. You need to read more carefully, and stop the great strawman game. I can do no such thing, nor do I wish it. Also, how does one t...
That is not something I claim. I'm a supporter of "ending all life in the universe" now? You're starting to sound a bit like a clown. The origin of li...
Only individuals are moral agents. Life starting in the universe is not a moral question. The individual choosing to perpetuate it is. Violence and ma...
This is plainly false. I am not preaching or proposing anything. I'm pointing out an inconsistency in the reasoning of those who choose to reproduce. ...
Based on common understanding of human psychology. But since you're the one claiming humans reproduce not out of personal motivations but some selfles...
People don't reproduce for the sake of the species' survival. This is just nonsense. Unless you wish to reject morality altogether, this is more nonse...
It's a matter of rational scrutiny - to demand a consistent argument from someone who chooses to impose on others. You've failed to provide that, and ...
Well, you'd be wrong. It's not an ideology - at least not for me. It's about observing an inconsistency in human behavior and asking for an explanatio...
This won't do. There are many behaviors that have existed prior to notions of morality, and many of such behaviors are universally regarded as immoral...
You're quite right, and frankly I have little to add. I think we have made a clear case that the common logic to justify procreation would not work in...
Person B dodged a bullet, because person A took a gamble with B's life and it happened to turn out ok. A good state of affairs, but the result of a ba...
The best you'll get out of this line of argument is something along the lines of "There's a higher chance that they'll enjoy it than that they will no...
I agree with this point, and I was hoping that by pointing out some of the moral dilemmas associated with procreation I could coax some of this philos...
If there is no decision being made, then it is not irrational. It just "is". Unfortunate, yes, because now individuals don't have a say in whether the...
I'm handwaving it, because there is no reason whatsoever for an individual to feel any natural imperative. I don't feel any natural imperative. Simult...
Sure, but not the question of whoever is a fortunate or unfortunate species. I don't see how that would inhibit a moral discussion, which is also a hu...
Maybe? That's not a question of antinatalism. Sure. I don't think nature is an excuse for immoral action. No, morality is about individuals, their int...
It would be the responsibility of whomever brings such a situation about, and after that just a very unfortunate state of affairs, I suppose, with peo...
The person who the parents know will come to be as a direct result of their actions. Who do future parents make a children's room for, or buy clothes ...
___________________ It's not a dilemma to you that you don't know whether someone consents before making a monumental decision on their behalf? And th...
That's obviously not what I'm saying. No. Whether it's A and B's business to decide whether C shall live I find questionable. But at the very least C ...
The point at which they decide to have children. Again, I'm coming at this from an angle that is only concerned with the choice of the parents to crea...
That does not change the nature of an imposition. If I impose something on you, with the intention of "helping you through it", that doesn't suddenly ...
To me the central question of antinatalism isn't whether people should or shouldn't experience all of those things, but whether an individual should g...
And I took the time to explain it to you in detail. If you're not interested in what I have to say, don't ask me to explain things to you next time. Y...
I'm all for not unnecessary harming anyone My gripe was with the idea that there exists a heirarchy of sentience by which we can decide what is moral ...
It isn't only about access, but also about control of the Black Sea (just like access isn't an issue when it comes to the Baltic or the White Seas - a...
I don't think the ability to feel pain is in any way relevant. Besides, how do you know insects and plants do not feel pain? They react to being attac...
Personally, I don't think there is a moral difference. By the same logic, would it be more acceptable to harm a less sentient human than a more sentie...
Whatever you eat, you will need to eat some living organism. Just because one is fluffy and the other is not, does not make it better to eat one over ...
The term "existential threat" in geopolitics means that a country feels one of their core strategic interests is being threatened. In the case of Russ...
The head of state stating any attempt at NATO expansion to Russian borders is seen as a direct threat is crystal clear language. You asked for evidenc...
I'm not sure what you mean. Your dilemma presupposes Bobs are part of modern society, so seemingly there is room. If you're asking if Bob can contribu...
I would classify being a "narcisisstic asshole" as failing - failing, perhaps not at his job, but at life. Larry is the real tragedy here, since his l...
I don't think modern society's values are all that relevant. Besides, modern society is made up of individuals making choices in pursuit of their own ...
Bob is clearly the more productive one, having cultivated a strong and virtuous character, which ultimately is the only thing that can lead to happine...
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