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As far as I can see right now epistemological idealism is more or less airtight. Kant has done a solid job of making this clear. But metaphysical idea...

Thanks for the discourse and the resources.

Wayfarer, thank you for correcting the author I cited. I made the appropriate edit. I suppose the conversation collapses into an argument over scienti...

It’s been an enjoyable conversation khaled and noble. I’m going to bed. I hope you both have a good night/day

Yes they likely will still believe in their god regardless of what argument you put forward.

In which case demonstrating that their form of morality doesn’t exist would be a matter of demonstrating that their god does not say one ought to do a...

Ah, but I don’t think a Christian would claim precisely the definition of morality you provided. I don’t think they typically believe that their moral...

But if someone claimed the operational definition of morality, you may be able to make them take a moral relativism position.

Or rather, that their morality doesn’t exist

Khaled I will say that if someone came to you claiming morality to mean exactly the definition you provided, you should have no trouble demonstrating ...

Khaled I don’t think that’s a useful notion of morality, as it is clearly false. Do you think that’s what other people mean when they use the word “mo...

Then applying the operational definition of morality, “It is moral for an agent to perform an action if that action achieves a result desired by that ...

Khaled can I take that to mean “There is no action that is universally moral across all agents.”

Are either of you advocating any particular proposition?

I may have mixed up which of you was arguing which point, my apologies. Khaled I might agree that in describing morality in terms of the wants of an a...

And Noble Dust, are you attempting to identify an action that is universally moral across all agents?

Khaled, am I correct in gathering that you are taking some action to be moral for some agent to perform if it achieves a result desired by that partic...