DingoJones

Its not branching off to homosexuality, homosexuality is just one specific reason the bible gives for the death penalty. I dont need to discuss the mo...

So murder in the bible is justified because the people in the bible or those the bible identifies as murder worthy deserved to die? What about gay men...

I just meaning general. Whatever wisdom the book provides it also Condones slavery and murder.:.are you just ignoring those parts or…?

Fair enough I suppose. So how do you reckon the parts of the bible that are awful with the parts with this wisdom you claim it has?

Well it can’t be faith + your reading…it would have to be just your reading then right? Cuz faith isnt a reason…? That is an argument from Ignorance f...

I can agree with that, Im a historical skeptic, further back the more skeptical I am. I am less skeptical when there is corroborated evidence to reinf...

I didnt want to not respond to your opening paragraph here, but it seems like you move on from it anyway… I disagree that reasons and evidence that an...

You are using different meanings of “value” interchangeably. Im sorry but it makes it difficult to find a spot to engage with.

That doesnt really make sense. Its like saying “the reason for me walking to the store is reason itself”. You gave a non-answer to my question.

I don’t think this is true. Those are not leaps of faith, or faith based conclusions. Just because you trust the reliability of something doesnt mean ...

People are dismissive of faith because they see it as a meaningless placeholder term, with no real value except to avoid accountability for a belief i...

I dont think they do. Hope and optimism were part of 1, not 2 but you posted as though you thought hope and optimism were in 2 as well. So how did you...

So you want to discuss definition 1? How would that relate to faith as it appears in judeo christian tradition which is actually part of definition 2?

Exactly my point. How can having a body be definitive of being a human when all kinds of clearly non-human things have bodies? So apparently it does n...

Cats have bodies.

:up:

T Clark was banned?

I wouldnt agree that its “”fragile delusional lunatic”, at least not just on one side of this debate. Sadly most people on both sides of any given deb...

They are not “hypothetical”, it is a very real social concern. There are, right now, people waiting, searching, for anyone to “speak their mind” in th...

:lol: You took the time to write that comment. Lol You never cease to amuse me you self important douche bag. :lol: :lol:

Thank you

Right, there are two different things to understand. The sentence, and the concept of a round square.

Its not binary, you can both understand the sentence is that incoherent and not understand the incoherent bit at the same time. You are understanding ...

You would understand it is incoherent. Indeed, wouldn't understanding something be a prerequisite for knowing it is incoherent?

Well put

There are lots of things evolution created that we cannot answer in the same way as you describe above. I don’t see why consciousness is a special cas...

More accurately, your imagination.

Obviously, but you are forgetting those lower dimensions. In 2D you dont even need the Planck scale hypersphere. Dark energy is the result of a 4D tra...

“Objection your honour, the prosecution is not responsible for the defences review of the charges.” It was a back and forth of like, 2 posts. I cant h...

I didnt say that, you aren’t really listening. Most of what you said wasn't about me but some atheist bad actor you have in your head. Keep looking. I...

Yes it is, but I’m a sucker for numbered points so lets see what your refutation is… 1 “not all theists share their belief with others.“ I didnt claim...

Your admission of guilt is noted, I rest my case.

If only that were true, but sadly theists have never been content to keep their willful delusions to themselves. As long as theists insist on bringing...

Yes of course its possible.

It becomes philosophical cuz you put the points in numerical order? And yes, im making a judgement. Being judgemental. So? I didnt judge you for being...

Your judgement of Jackson. Jumped to conclusions about his character. He doesnt know how to be a person? He has an agenda? All because his question di...

Well, its obvious you know how it feels to be a self righteous twat. So theres that.

The hypocrisy I was referring to was a theist being offended by an atheist while at the same time constantly saying the same sorts of things about ath...

Yes, egg. Im curious if your reasoning is the same as mine though. Care to share?

I suspect trolling is as common amongst theists as it is amongst atheists. That is, its hard to imagine they actually believe everything they are sayi...

:lol: That was as solid a rebuttal as anyone could ask for. Too bad it will be dismissed out of hand. Made me laugh though. The level of projection at...

I see. What kind of creation do you mean? Like spontaneous creation out of nothing or would a human being creating a song or painting or a baby in the...

Because they want to. .

What is your definition of a god?

Ok, so do you believe in all gods or are you going to rely more on something like “Zeus exists as feature of greek mythology”?

Sure, what method did you use to show Zeus doesnt exist? Ill just use that one.

So what you actually mean given your caveat at the end of the OP is that declaring war is unjust, not that war is unjust. Right?

They aren’t out of context, those questions illustrate the possibilities you asked for.

Well the suffering might indeed be part of a greater good, a necessary evil. Thats at least possible, isnt it? What about the evils that stem from fre...

Ok, so its the lesser of two evils? There are degrees of evil? How does it work, does all the good things count at all in our moral judgement of this ...