Thats what I understood the OP to be refering to, an extreme tolerance, so tolerant that you tolerate anything. Im not buying khaleds logic but I thin...
Ya, panic is bad of course. You have no other concerns about public mischief though? I would imagine you mean this as it pertains to speech by itself,...
Really? What if its 10 people? Or 50% of the people in the theatre? You really are a free speech absolutist. So there is never any speech of any kind ...
Thats what I would take the phrase to mean, that you wouod tolerate intolerance. You would be tolerating everything, nothing excluded. I do not think ...
I think what the Mad Fool is saying is that its impossible to forget by simply willing it to happen, it would take more than that as you describe. Cor...
Yes, it fails to address my claim because the meat eater can still use the exact same argument to justify his position and because if the vegan goal w...
You are right, I used the two terms to express the same sentiment. Doesnt really matter. We can stick to contradictory, I think its the more suitable ...
I didnt say it was paradoxical to use suffering as a basis. This is what makes your snideness insufferable, that you actually label your own inability...
Non-sequitor. Your not addressing what I said was contradictory. I didnt say anything about illusions to eliminate suffering or that it was paradoxal ...
You or I could discover we are wrong, (that is very valuable) we could find out we are both wrong (the difficult one) We could trigger each other into...
Clearly, so it is a good thing I didnt make such an argument. What I did was point out a paradox, a contradiction, in using the suffering of animals a...
Ya, I think NKBJ has you on this. The real Vegan paradox is how much suffering and killing is done to maintain their own eating habits...like such mas...
No, you do not see this as being an argument you can actually win. You are in fact being dismissive, because you cannot come up with answers to what I...
Why is it hard to believe? You only say that becuase you do not have faith (a good thing). People are taught to have faith, to use it as justification...
No offense, but this example of faith shows that you did not understand what I have said sbout faith. This is not an example of faith, faith is not th...
This is a very poor way of defining “true”. What you are suggesting is “true” is what people accept as true. Not the same thing Im afraid, and you onl...
Yes, if you are expecting him to soften up or change the tone you will be disappointed. I merely meant that he addresses the counter-arguments and con...
...becuase it has none of the traits that we use to determine what is true and the traits that it does possess can just as easily lead to erroneous co...
Ok, lets have that discussion then. Yes faith exists, yes it can of some value to people who have it. Its not value that we need to look at, it is its...
You should finish the book first, as many of your and other peoples issues are addressed by the end. It is not meant as hyperbole, he makes the case t...
Mr S has pretty clearly addressed your post so I wont bother repeating. At this point I think its all been laid out for and as S has said, you might b...
An obvious attempt at obfuscation. This is no different than the argument as it has already been put except some shifting semantics. Here is the probl...
Hitchens was an anti-theist, and an atheist. Im actually not sure how that is relevent. Ok, so what is unreasonable exactly? It doesnt matter that the...
If the answer to the question “do you believe in god?” Is anything other than “yes”, then you are an atheist. So one could be an atheist becuase one i...
Atheism is not a belief, it is precisely the lack of a belief. Calling it a belief is just a cute argument theists like to make, an attempt to dodge t...
It would help alot if religious people could see the distinction between the belief in god and the belief in religion. They wouldnt cling so steadfast...
I read through all the relevent posts, Im sorry to say it seems like pretty clear dodging questions from the onset. It looks like an attempt to contro...
Ive been struggling to come up with a response, I don’t see how most of that is relevent and I think you are still being evasive, and overcomplicating...
I think you are making it more complicated than it needs to be, and as I said you are working backwards from conclusions youve already come to. Maybe ...
Im not trying to be antagonistic, answering questions with more questions seems evasive. Especially when you do that instead of addressing the points ...
You are working backwards from your conclusions about ethics to dismiss the relevance of something thats foundational to almost any conclusions that c...
Ok, but causality isnt the sort of thing that can be relative. Your question only makes sense if you offer some reason for us to treat causality as so...
...because it would be operating under the same “facts” (cannot be itself and not itself) that you yourself have called objective. Your turn. Why coul...
I just don’t have the patience for this kind of thing. You have been told clearly by like, 5 people. You have been retold by those same people in even...
Indeed. Why can’t you apply the same rule of non-contradiction to ethics to form similar basis? I understand this would not resemble conventional ethi...
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