DingoJones

Im not defending anyone you clown. Im calling you out. The fact you can’t see the difference should give you pause. The guy was obviously a jack-ass, ...

With no self awareness of how egocentric that is. What is the fucking point of “responding” to a guy you know is banned?! You show your colours here, ...

Well we can talk about faith if you want, but you said you’ve heard it all so...

Why would a mental prison be eternal? Why isnt there mental escape routes like with a physical prison? (Therapy, self reflection, enlightenment etc) A...

Well to be precise I should say that it makes no sense to doubt your own existence. Obviously one can try and doubt their existence or they might erro...

Ya, most of that is lost on me but the self cannot be doubted, at least not by the self (I could doubt others peoples sense of self but not my own). I...

Sure, maybe but I see no reason to think thats the case. I stated the reasoning why we can be certain of our own existence, are you conceding that poi...

No it cant. The act of doubting requires a doubter, the doubter must exist. The nature of that existence might be any number of things (brain in a vat...

Ok, but can you respond to what Im saying rather than just pivoting to something else? You make a point, i make a counter-point, and you just “but” in...

Certain knowledge is very elusive, as far as I know its just Descartes Cogito Ergo Sum. No other knowledge is 100% certain. Even if that weren’t the c...

Whats more reliable than science? Whats your superior alternative?

Why is it so reliable if its a hoax?

What makes you think science is founded on taking random samples? The “ samples” are not random, and they arent the foundation of science. The samples...

This is not true. Right out of the gate. What makes you think science is founded on taking random samples.

You havent provided any explanation that hasnt been refuted. Just because you ignore arguments does mean they havent been made. So what you really mea...

Non-sequitor. This doesn't address you mixing up uses of the word “faith”. Thats ridiculous conjecture and completely baseless. Not only unable to sho...

Well I dont think anything in particular is always permissible or impermissible ethically, I dont go by a principled approach to ethics. Its only cont...

Killing something isnt impermissibly bad. That's a convenient framing to service your conclusions. There is no different way to achieve it, thats impl...

No its not. A specific atheist might have that belief but thats him, not atheism. Neither is atheism a “refusal” to believe in god, its simply the lac...

Ok, I see what youre saying. I dont think its “impermissibly bad” to shift the track to the one dude over the 5, youre just defining it that way. Your...

Ok, but what Im asking is how you decided the prevention of greater loss of life in the trolley problem isnt obligatory. Walk me through your reasons ...

So what is the ideal moral person in your view? The one who acts the least is the most moral?

Do you think there are no moral obligations to act? Its just about what not to do rather than what you should do? If not, how do you justify excluding...

I think the 3 things you described are part of the natural result of cognitive dissonance. The blurred lines that you are asking about between contrad...

Its a psychological term, holding two opposing ideas to be true at the same time, or consistently acting contrary to one or more beliefs. Explainable ...

Its not my spectrum, but I find it difficult to imagine the specific traits mentioned would “phase out” at some point along the spectrum Considering h...

They are only opposed opinions if one fails to recognise the distinction between where various animals (including humans) sit on the spectrum of certa...

Well he can answer what he likes, Im specifically addressing you and you are specifically ignoring it while using your incorrect initial assessment of...

Its cognitive dissonance. Human behaviour doesnt always make sense unfortunately.

You are evading madame, not me. You arent even paying attention to what Im writing, i specifically addressed this sort of response by expressing exact...

You say waiting, I say ignoring valid criticisms. You will need to address those first because as it stands your attitude and mistakes mentioned above...

Not a friend, Ive only interacted with him on this thread as far as I know and I wouldn't be defending anyone based on friendship anyway. This is an e...

Well I said it was no more or less arbitrary. I just meant to put them on the same footing.

There must be some term for what your saying here. Its a vegan ethic applied to a more narrow spectrum of animal based on mental capacity. It seems no...

Its true, it does seem like youre deliberately misunderstanding him. It does come across as strange that the sentence you referenced with quotes neede...

Good point.

Well what exactly do you loathe about it? Is there anything you like about it? (Medicine is pretty swell).

Of course it is. Science uses its method to determine the way things work. If the way things work is prayer or magic then thats what science will be a...

I hope you remember your past thought experiments and my willingness to play along because this time I dont think you thought experiment makes sense. ...

I dont think youre really contradicting yourself, but a vegan can make a strong point about using a scale of moral worth simply by asking about where ...

Ok but how was his post not amusing? Stinky pervert? Its just so...harmlessly juvenile. I laughed.

We are in agreement, I think your stance is consistent.

Yes, as you say you see what Im getting at. I think we might disagree about what levels of pain and suffering matters though...i wouldnt say you could...

I would guess we have reached an impasse, as your responses seems scarce on substance to me as well.

I feel like ive answered this...the meat that meets the thresholds of suffering being used to decide what's ok to eat and whats isnt. The vegetarians ...

Well I wouldnt agree with that no, because I wouldnt use suffering as the metric. If you do use suffering as a metric then I think there is a spectrum...

Yes, this would be shifting the discussion. Thats why im arguing from the same basis of using suffering as the metric, I recognise my own views on eth...

I think this is pertinent to both of our discussions. I think that deciding bugs dont count is the same as deciding certain animals dont count. Graeme...

I was pointing out an inconsistency that arises from the vegan/animal rights premiss of reducing suffering. Reducing suffering is not my own basis of ...

My concern isnt to reduce suffering, thats the concern of vegans/animal rights folk. Im talking about in what way operating from that stance leads to ...